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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2008 - 12:58:50 AM »
buy some more carbon credits from him ... this will save the world ... or at least his world
 I have no use for this idiot

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2008 - 01:05:22 AM »
I'm all for businessmen like Pikens. That's how America works. It not the governments job to control energy. They screw up everything they get involved with and they should stay out of it. The marketplace will take care of the problem.

Not really sold on the Hyrogen car but maybe they'll find a way to make Hydrogen cheaper than gas. Right now it isn't, and the effect of "supply and demand" tells me it will be much more if the useage increases. The cars they have on the road now are just evaluation models. Toyota won't admit what they really cost to produce. I've read much more negative stuff about hydrogen cars than positive and a company that researched them for a decade just bailed out in late 2007 because they came to the conclusion they are an unviable alternative to gas engines.

Al Gore's problem is he has a carbon footprint like the Jolly Green Giant jetting around the globe in a private plane, riding in limos and burning energy. "Do what I say, not what I do." Ever see what his electric bill is?
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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2008 - 02:51:17 AM »
I have to agree - there is a way for us to substantially lower the amount of fuel that we use - be it for electrical production, running our daily drivers, or heating our homes. The reason that it has taken so long is that it was easier and cheaper to stay status-quo. I just read an artical about wood-pellet furnaces being marketed in the Northeast (who depend almost exclusively on heating oil). Why did it take until now? My folks have had a pellet stove for 8+ years. And they have been using them over here in Germany as pellet furnaces for longer than that. There is no profit in innovation until people feel the pain of what they are using. The probelm is that without government influence/direction, we were happy to just keep on keeping on. Now we are behind the curve and the general public blames the people they elected. How about blaming themselves for not demanding change - or even better, changing what they use on their own?


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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008 - 05:54:48 AM »
Of course, everyone knows we must reduce our dependance on foreign oil and then on oil all together. There are great plans to do this. Boone Pikens and his energy creating methods are great. Wind. Solar. Hydro.... He is an oil man and he knows what is up. He isn't in the denial game. He knows we can't go on with oil forever.
However, in the meantime, we have to drive our cars and fly the friendly skies. We can do phase one almost immediately: Kick the habit of foreign oil. Get it at home from our many resources in the lower 48 States. I know the Reps want to drill off shore but that takes too long. I am not against going off shore becaue of the poor fishes and wales, It just takes too long. We can start pumping from Texas, Oklahoma, N/S Dakota, Alaska, Califony....... TOMMORROW!
When we have kicked the high price of foreign oil and subsequently created jobs due to a new oil boomm we can pull our resources and start creating alternate energies.
Nuclear energy is an awesome asset. Coal is clean despite what some would have you believe. Hydroelectricity is certainly expandable due to the number of rivers and lakes in America.
That IS the future. Folks have to realize though that we have to drive to the future in a dinosaur fueled vehicle and it is going to take longer than 10 years (I'd say 20 given our government Rep. or Dem.).

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008 - 05:59:17 AM »
http://www.americansolutions.com/actioncenter/petitions/?Guid=54ec6e43-75a8-445b-aa7b-346a1e096659

 Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.

Phase one. Kick foreign oil.

 

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2008 - 08:31:28 AM »
 :iagree: I signed the Petition months ago. It's picking up steam in the Congress and 70% of the American people want it, so what's the hold up? Drill here, drill now, pay less.



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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2008 - 11:04:26 AM »
I still say "Drill Now" is a temporary solution AT BEST.  We need NEW FORMS OF ENERGY for our vehicles.  We have to stop giving companies the thumbs up to suck the earth dry of every drop of oil we have left.

It'll last us another few years - they say 60 - I say bull :poopoke:.  At the exponential rate at which the WORLD is increasing it's demand for gasoline, we'll be out in less than 10 years, even if we drill all of the US's available sources of oil.

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008 - 11:28:12 AM »
I'm sorry, not buying into the Global warming scare.  Weather changes and cycles and nothing we do can change that.  Instead of trying to use less fossil fuel (gas) why not just get more of it.  Oil isn't in short supply, recovery is.  I know drilling and refining won't fix it right away but it will influence the market.  Remember that ole supply and demand principle in high school.  Anyway, start drilling, pumping, and refining.  Lets get past the scare tactics of liberal tree huggers that have nothing to look forward to in life but winning aruments and going barefoot.  Leave the barefeet to us hillbillly folk.  Just my oppinion, Have nice day....   :wave:
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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008 - 12:08:06 PM »
71chally416  - I just read that article on Al Gore's electricity bill and all I can say is WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!!   

And while we're on the subject,  I'd really like to know how this BS of "carbon credits" s going to work.  Who's going to get all this $$$ And what will they do with it?  If it's going to be the government, then call it what it really is, another frickin tax.  If it is a private entity, how much do you want to bet that good ole Al has some sort of interest in it? 

Mind you, I am no big fan of the current President Bush either.  He's seen the dollar become so weak that we are all feeling the pain at the pump and grocery store.  He's allowed market speculators to crush our economy.  And why the hell are we not getting any of that Iraqi oil that the liberals screamed the war over there was all about?  That is the real reason for the jump to $4/gallon gas over the past year.  It has nothing to do with supply and demand.  Currently there is more supply than ever and the US's demand is down by more barrels per month than all of Asia currently consumes.  So we can't blame the Chinese or the Indians. 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8878

Bottom line to me is we all need to conserve more based on our own personal economies and the gov't needs to get off the butts and let the Free Market do what it does best, solve problems that meet real needs and do so while making a profit.
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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2008 - 01:53:36 PM »
I still say "Drill Now" is a temporary solution AT BEST.  We need NEW FORMS OF ENERGY for our vehicles. 

Duh! We need a temporary solution. We can't go to alternates tommorrow. We need to drive there in a petroleum ran vehicle. May as well drill here and pay less than we would to get there with Saudi petrol!
Are looking for the switch? There isn't one. We have years before we can go alternate and then at that we are always going to need oil. I don't see airliners going to electric.
Drill here. Drill now. Pay less.

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2008 - 03:01:35 PM »
I'm not buying that the world is running out of Oil. I keep hearing that but nobody can prove it one way or the other because we don't even have a clue what we have here and we're the most advanced nation on the Planet. All we get is the same ole liberal mantra's we've been hearing for decades. "You can't drill your way out of the problem" and "It'll take too long to get the oil" I say we should at least do a thorough exploration of both Oceans and Anwar to verify the supply. For sure the current American production that equals 1940's rates isn't going to cut it in 2008. 
Before anyone blames Bush for this problem, remember back to his first speech as President when he called for more domestic production. This sheds some light on the current supply problem.
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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2008 - 03:26:57 PM »
I watched the Wicked Witch of the West, Nancy Pelosi, last night on Wolf Blitzer. She was all about drilling in the lower 48. Seems the Dems. are all about it.
They just don't want the oceans drilled or Natl. Parks drilled until we cant find it anywhere else.
I agree. Why take the time to do all that when we have oil under our feet in the lower 48 and in Alaska outside of ANWR.
Why build time consuming ocean riggs and go trpsing around a Natl. Park when we could pop the cork on what we have in TX, OK, CA, KS, ND, SD, AK.
Here's another thing. We need another refinery! That would bring costs down too.

Since O'bama is in bed with moveon.org and Gore's bunch, I think he's the wrong man for the job when it comes to this nation's energy quagmire.

The Dem's in the House seem like they're on the right track as far as the Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less deal. I think that is a non-partisan petition group but I think the Dem's are actually listening to their constituents, who are all for drilling at home.

I just don't see how you can go wrong with drilling at home. Create jobs. Quit giving so much money to terrorist states. ......

"Before anyone blames Bush for this problem, remember back to his first speech as President when he called for more domestic production. "
BTW, Bush would say anything at that point in time. Did he follow through on it? NO!
I'm not a Bush hater at all. There are some things I don't like about him. The biggest thing is the loyalty thing. He stuck with Rumsfield and it cost us BIG. And it does'nt take a genius to figure out he is bed fellows with King Abdullah of Saudi. IIRC, he would bring him home to Houston or wherever in college. Yes they went to the same school.
It is time to cut the ties with Kuwait and Saudi. It has been the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of mankind.

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Re: Is it me or is Al Gore an idiot??
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2008 - 04:02:15 PM »
Bush can't make Congress do anything. He can suggest they do, plead and beg, but it's in their lap and the Dem's control it. Even when he first took office the Rebublicans just had a slim majority, not enough to get anything passed on drilling. But don't believe me, check the the Anwar site.
http://www.anwr.org/archives/political_history.php
 
The only problem with drilling on the land they can currently drill on is there isn't enough oil there to bother with.  There are known reserves in the Pacific, in the Rockies and in Anwar, and in Alaska they already have the infrastructure in place AND a pipeline that operates at only 30% capacity.   
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