Author Topic: Carb Suggestions?????  (Read 1546 times)

Offline Cdnchallenger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 313
Carb Suggestions?????
« on: July 24, 2008 - 08:43:20 AM »
 :newbie: :1zhelp: :canada:

I am looking to replace the carb on my 318 73 Challenger. It is as old as the hills and is giving me all kinds of troubles.
Can anyone suggest a decent replacement. (Type and size would be appreciated). It is basically a stock engine with a small cam and headers and is a weekend driver.

Thanks in advance.

Steve




Offline MEK-Dangerfield

  • C-C.com Expert
  • ********
  • Posts: 20946
  • I don't get NO respect! Member since 1/25/2002
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008 - 08:49:35 AM »
I would suggest a Holley with vacuum secondaries. Something in the 600-650cfm size.

Mike

1970 Challenger - SOLD
2016 SXT+.  1 of 524 SXT+'s in Plumb-crazy for 2016.

Offline Cdnchallenger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 313
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008 - 09:21:49 AM »
Can I ask what the difference is between vacuum and mechanical secondaries?

Offline Chryco Psycho

  • Administrator
  • C-C.com Guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 36620
  • 70 Challenger R/T SE 70 tube Chassis Cuda now sold
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008 - 10:44:04 AM »
the vacuum secondary will not over carb the engine , with the mechanical carb can be forced full open

Challenger - You`ll wish You Hadn`t

Offline Cdnchallenger

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 313
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008 - 10:47:24 AM »
Any opinions on Edelbrock carbs? Pros or cons?

 :clueless:

Offline Chryco Psycho

  • Administrator
  • C-C.com Guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 36620
  • 70 Challenger R/T SE 70 tube Chassis Cuda now sold
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008 - 10:48:49 AM »
not a fan , if you must the Thunder series is far better

Challenger - You`ll wish You Hadn`t

Offline mikerallye

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 321
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008 - 11:13:54 AM »
Weren't all 318's running 2 barrel carbs?  I assume that you are now using a 4barrel setup? Mopar used 800 cfm carbs on the 340/360 engines in 73/74. I like the edelbrock avs thunder 800 on my 340. Most catalogs will suggest a 600 cfm though. Who's  right Chryco?   :burnout:

Offline Chryco Psycho

  • Administrator
  • C-C.com Guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 36620
  • 70 Challenger R/T SE 70 tube Chassis Cuda now sold
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008 - 11:45:41 AM »
most 318s used 2 bbl Except the Mexican Super Bee & some later 87 cars that had a 318 4 bbl
 the 340 used a 900 CFM 6 pack with no problem , if the carb is tuned right larger carbs work , , I would use around 600 cfm with vacuum secondaries on a 318 , maybe more if the engine is highly modified

Challenger - You`ll wish You Hadn`t

Offline ViperMan

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 3989
  • 2017 Carlisle or BUST...
    • JS Custom Cars
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008 - 11:55:21 AM »
I'm running a Eddie 650 with electric choke, and I am REALLY happy with it.  Very easy to install and setup.  Runs great - especially after being graced by Chrycho Psycho's hands!

Jeff
2000 Dodge Viper GTS Coupe - 8.0L V10, 6-Speed Tremec
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited - Trail Rated - 4.7L V8, Auto
2010 Dodge Challenger SE Rallye - 3.5L V6, Auto (Wife's!)

Offline 70 RAG TOP

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 145
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008 - 04:04:30 PM »
I also need a recommendation on a good replacement for my older carter AVS.  I currently have a 383 magnum(stock) engine in need of a rebuild.  I plan on building it to pretty much stock specs.  I purchased the carb new, years ago in the hopes that it would solve my problems(stumbling on acceleration and poor performance ) but it didn't.  Iam wondering if the problems were more of a result of the tired engine , low vacuum etc.?   any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

MIKE
Mike

Offline Supercuda

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 534
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008 - 05:01:32 PM »
The Carter AVS used on MOPAR cars for so long, was an excellent carburetor. Edelbrock now has the license to make new ones, and does so. Chrysler also used Holley carbs in 1970-71, and these worked well. There were recalls associated with them, but I think it had more to d owith the twiddling done to pass emissions, than with the way it worked. The Thermoquad was great, because it flowed 800 CFM, and wouldn't over-carb an engine, and had that way cool spreadbore design. As with all carburetors, the real issues arise not from the brand of carb chosen, but from misguided attempts to tune them, using incorrect procedures, or improper parts. I like Holley, but love the T-quad. You can even use a Rochester Quadrajet, if you want. My 1985 Dodge van had one, and it was fine. Yes, it was factory-installed. Carter folded in 1984, and Chrysler still needed carburetors. They went to Rochester.

Offline MEK-Dangerfield

  • C-C.com Expert
  • ********
  • Posts: 20946
  • I don't get NO respect! Member since 1/25/2002
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008 - 05:19:24 PM »
I also need a recommendation on a good replacement for my older carter AVS.  I currently have a 383 magnum(stock) engine in need of a rebuild.  I plan on building it to pretty much stock specs.  I purchased the carb new, years ago in the hopes that it would solve my problems(stumbling on acceleration and poor performance ) but it didn't.  Iam wondering if the problems were more of a result of the tired engine , low vacuum etc.?   any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

MIKE


Welcome aboard here.   :wave:


  Is your carb a 2, or 4 barrel? What did you have originally, and what did you replace it with? I would guess your carb needed tuning, not your engine. Even with a tired engine, you shouldn't be stumbling. Just re-acting slowly, and not having a great top end...I would think. Your vacuum shouldn't be low unless you have put a big cam in it. Maybe this is a problem with the spark plugs, and wires?



  Mike

Mike

1970 Challenger - SOLD
2016 SXT+.  1 of 524 SXT+'s in Plumb-crazy for 2016.

Offline 71chally416

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 3170
    • The Streetwalker
Once we had Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope & Johnny Cash. Now we have Obama, No Hope and No Cash!

Offline 70 RAG TOP

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 145
Re: Carb Suggestions?????
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008 - 02:48:44 PM »
Thanks for your info on my carb questions!

mike(penskesux)
Mike