Noob here. Help me ID this burnt junkyard Challenger/engine.

[DavidWymore]

No, I'm afraid I haven't had a chance to get down there.

[cudax34me]

That car is pretty hurt looking,anything can be saved but not sure it`s worth it.Also if the engine has been sitting open like that for any amount of time it may need a complete rebiuld so I doubt you can just throw a carb on and run it.   

your probably right torred. i bought a 440 out of a 69 charger siting in a pasture 20 yrs ago.1 intake valve was stuck open.every bug in the county must have moved into that cylinder.was so bad it had to be sleeved.

[71chally416]

I suppose it makes sense to some to try to rescue a 40 YO junkyard dog when you can buy a used 5.7 Hemi that weights hundreds less, makes more stock hp and has vastly superior cylinder heads for the cost of the machine work it'll need alone.

[DavidWymore]

I'm ol skool. Not run out and buy a new one.

5.7? Big deal, like bellybuttons - everyone has one.

Four-Forty...schweet!

[DavidWymore]

http://www.sweptline.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16411

[DavidWymore]

Get my drift?

[cudax34me]

I suppose it makes sense to some to try to rescue a 40 YO junkyard dog when you can buy a used 5.7 Hemi that weights hundreds less, makes more stock hp and has vastly superior cylinder heads for the cost of the machine work it'll need alone.

can i get one of those for christmas please?

[71chally416]

Nobody likes or has owned more big block cars than me. I would list them all starting with my first car in HS in 1972 but you wouldn't believe me. I even remember seeing a 426 Hemi sitting in the local junkyard in the engine building, but I couldn't afford what they wanted for it. They were pretty rare, even in the 70's. The big block Wedge motors are great motors and easy as hell to work on, but they are 1950's technology and aren't as gifted in the head department.

And their are a lot of 5.7 Hemis around, but that's a bad thing?  They are all in trucks and SUV's and cars that weigh over 4,000lbs. I saw brand new assembly line truck Hemis on E-bay with a Buy-it-now of $3,000. Modern FI, 270 cfm aluminum heads (with an easy 300cfm with minor porting) and a roller cam for 3K, or whatever you can find one for? I've seen them as cheap as $1,200 used. How can you beat that? And I consider them Old-school. They have pushrods and are easy to work on. You can bolt a cam and headers on one and kiss 500hp. That's Old school in my book. Try doing that with a junkyard 440.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/enginemasters/articles/mopar/smallblock/0602phr_hemi/index.html

[DavidWymore]

New engine in an old truck is not my thing. Too "chainer" for me.

If I decide I absolutey HAVE to have heads that aren't 1950s tech, I'll buy some. But I won't. I'm sure a stock 440 with some nice pipes will be enough to put a grin on my face, and anyone else that "gets" it. 

I couldn't and wouldn't drop 3 grand on an engine for an old hot rod/muscle/beater truck, esp with fuel injection, computer, wires, and plastic all over it. I'll put the 318 in it for the time being and see what the 440 has to offer. If it's gone inside, oh well. If it needs some love, I'll do some work on it with the help of an auto machinist friend. I run a machine and welding shop, I'm sure I could handle getting my hands a little dirty. As one on my good ol machinists says when I give him a hard time about how to do his job...."This ain't my first rodeo, son..." 

My blazer has TBI/EFI because it's built to go wherever I want without stalling, and 1988 isn't ol skool. 

I glanced at the link you posted and grabbed this.

One additional change was required before we could run the cams, and that had to do with the engine management system. The Mopar Performance controller is not readily programmable for the serious modifications we had in mind. We needed full control over the fuel and spark curves, as well as a much higher rev limit to really get the most of our new cams. Westech's fuel injection guru Tom Habrzyk, wired the Hemi with components from FAST.


I don't even wanna think about all that techno mubojumbo. This is gonna be a fun, cheap, lowbuck, lowtech, enjoyable to work on truck, halfway original and "period correct". Not a headache and, "Oh crap now I have to buy this and that and this to make it work...look how fancy and shiny it all is ,and guess how much money I paid for all of it."

NOW do you get my drift?

[DavidWymore]

Note the link I posted...'65 pickup with a built 440...supposedly runs 12s...4k in the engine. Too rich for my taste, and faster than I need, but still only a grand more than the 3k for a new hemi...and that hemi is gonna give you fits getting it in. What about a tranny? What about supplying it with hi pressure fuel, etc., etc.?

['Cuda Hunter]

  I feel ya. 

[71chally416]

There's a thread with an old Dodge pickup right on this site within a 5.7 Hemi.
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=31666.225

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/71bigblock/?action=view&current=DSCN0833.flv

[NoMope Greg]

That's Steve who introduced you/him to the site.

[71bigblock]

Yep, I'll never go back to a carbureator.  Cant beat 350+ horsepower (I have elimintated A/C, P/S, and it has intake and exhaust)  and should easily get me 20+ mpg highway.   

[BoughtItNew]

...and those Air Shocks!