Pieced together Hydraulic Clutch setup?

[70RT/SE]

Here is a kit on ebay that uses a slave cylinder setup.....http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-Hyd-Clutch-Kit-833-4-Spd-or-Tremec-5-Spd-Hemi_W0QQitemZ170246998122QQihZ007QQcategoryZ33730QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I don't why with all the new bellhousings someone didn't design one for a slave setup.

[Bullitt-]

Magnum bell be the same? May be a little tougher finding a '99 bell..hmm

If your seriously considering this why not get the whole tamale....modern 5-speed, maybe look at Dakota models as well. I'm pretty sure Shelbydog can give you some insight.

[GoodysGotaCuda]

If your seriously considering this why not get the whole tamale....modern 5-speed, maybe look at Dakota models as well. I'm pretty sure Shelbydog can give you some insight.

Hmm, well there is a lakewood scattersheild that mates a TKO to a mopar small block


  There are plenty of options on a setup. It's more expensive to go with the 5speed of course..but vs dropping a couple hundred into a 833..it may just be worth it 

[sleepychallenger]

hmmmmm.... options options. keep us posted on whatever you do, and remember to give us some pics

[GoodysGotaCuda]

may not be right away or 'soon'. But i'll figure out what exactly i'll go with and get back to the board! Thanks!

[sleepychallenger]

Goody, that is unsat. you must make decisions, come on, come on, doooo ittt.  JK man. keep us up to date, never know what someone may be able to help with. there are many wrecking yards out there just out of your reach that someone else may be able to get to. 

[GoodysGotaCuda]

Definately true, finally starting a career I can make money at in the begininng of the year is a step in the right direction too! Talking with various people, it seems most efficient of time and money to put a TKO in vs the 833. But different situations will dictate what ends up going in. Thanks!

[GoodysGotaCuda]

Mopar makes a conversion bell as well to the TKO. For new hemis and LA sb's. Bit pricey at $550 though! ("moparts racing" has it for $490 http://www.mopartsracing.com/parts/trans.html)  Looks like there is some existing bracketry for a slave cylinder...

http://www.mopar.com/m_perf_subcatCheck.jsp?SubSubGrpID=51210&dummy9=1218317012613



"Hydroformed SFI bellhousing for 5.7L/6.1L HEMI blocks. Both mechanical and hydraulic Mopar clutch systems can be used, either with the stock "Z-bar" design, or 1995 Dakota clutch hydraulics, fork, bearing, and pivot. Includes pilot bearing. Bolt up a Tremec TKO (5-speed) transmission and go! "

Here is the parts list for the hydraulic clutch conversion using that bellhousing
http://www.mopar.com/m_perf_subcatCheck.jsp?SubSubGrpID=51211&dummy9=1218317031143

  04338855   Spring, Clutch Release Fork   $3.00   None 
  52087542   Pivot Ball   $7.00   None 
  52107555   Clutch Fork   $18.00   None 
  52107625   Clutch Master/Slave Assembly   $244.00   None 
  53008342   Release Bearing   $77.00   None 

I'd bet you could get most of that stuff from another source much cheaper.

[bigblue73]

Mike -
If your looking for the TKO hydraulics.....think 5.0 Ford.  The TKO for the Mopars is a ford based unit, use a nice Tilton master cylinder and the new Ram throw out bearing and I bet you are under $300.00 for the whole enchilada.  Remember the rod ends, turn buckle and mounting post that attaches to the pedal.....and use the existing hole in your floor and purchase the floor board grommet for the 4 speed from Brewers.

By the way, you are not tied to the aftermarket scattershields.  Look at the cast bellhousing that Classic Mopar 5 Speed sells with the roller pilot bearing to get you going.  $249.00 for the Bell. $65.00 for the roller pilot bearing.

Tony
Classic Mopar 5 Speed

[Chryco Psycho]

just so you know the TKO will lock up if you want to shift above 6000 rpm

[GoodysGotaCuda]

Mike -
If your looking for the TKO hydraulics.....think 5.0 Ford.  The TKO for the Mopars is a ford based unit, use a nice Tilton master cylinder and the new Ram throw out bearing and I bet you are under $300.00 for the whole enchilada.  Remember the rod ends, turn buckle and mounting post that attaches to the pedal.....and use the existing hole in your floor and purchase the floor board grommet for the 4 speed from Brewers.

Tony
Classic Mopar 5 Speed

Thanks Tony, that does sound like a pretty good setup, keeping the budget in mind.

Thanks Tony, that does sound like a pretty good setup, keeping the budget in mind.

just so you know the TKO will lock up if you want to shift above 6000 rpm

Right, thats what I understand about these trans, my 318 doesnt make any power past that. And it's easy to make a mean street motor with a ton of grunt and go keeping under 6k. Especially with the 5spd.

[bigblue73]

I shift mine at 6500 and don't have a problem.  I really think alot of the issues that people see are direct results from improper bell housing alignment.  When they say .005 TIR, they mean just that.  I would bet that quite a few people get it close and they go with it.  ?

[ShelbyDogg]

Mike,

This has already been done before on a Mopar. I remember seeing pictures of a slave cylinder bolted to the side of the bell, pushing the stock fork.  Seach Moparts or the internet for those pics. 

Rob

[73challenger_TN]

I'm not sure this will help you but I thought id give it a shot I think there are some posts on big block dart about hydraulic clutches.
http://www.bigblockdart.com/techpages/clutch.shtml
EDIT:  Check out http://www.quicktimeinc.com They have 318 to TKO/T5 bellhousings on clearance for 250$!

[ShelbyDogg]

That's it.  Thanks for that link.  My friend posts there all the time and that's where I saw it. 

The old Z-bar is so reliable, I never even thought about changing over my 3 cars.