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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008 - 02:34:20 PM »
  Here's what my wiped lobes looked like.  ::)





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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008 - 03:47:08 PM »
Maybe it's not the grind the previous owner said it was. I never had any luck with the MP cams, maybe it's one that doesn't fit with standard converter and
cruisegear in the rear end.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2008 - 06:16:06 PM »
You can make a redneck leakdown detector easy. Just get a compression tester hose and and a air nozzel gun with a tubing extension. If you don't have a compression tester kit with a detachable hose you can even use an old spark plug with the porcelin broken off and a piece of tubing the same size as the air nozzel welded or brazed on. Now clamp a rubber hose between them the right size to hook them together. You'll probably need several hose clamps on each side to keep the hose from slipping off. With the rocker gear removed screw it into each cylinder and shoot air and release the trigger and listen for air escaping. The trigger will prevent it from coming back through the hose.

If air comes out the carb, you have a bent intake valve.

If air comes out the exhaust, a burnt or bent exhaust valve.

If air shoots out between the block and head it's a blown head gasket.

If air comes up through the motor out of the crankcase very quickly, like as soon as you shoot it in, it's going right by the rings or maybe even (rarely) a hole in the piston.

It's been my experience that most times low compression in one cylinder, if the cam checks out and the valves seem to all be opening and closing right, is a burnt exhaust valve from engine detonation or even a blown head gasket. It's rarely an Intake valve. :thumbsup:     
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2008 - 07:33:21 PM »
 Great info 71chally416. I really learned some things there. :cheers:

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2008 - 09:42:40 PM »
That lost compression has to be going somewhere, right?  That method just gives you the chance to hear where. It's usually obvious.

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008 - 07:42:54 AM »
Could borrow a leaktest and I don't know if do it wrong but I get the same results for high and low compression. The air that leaks during the test goes
down in the engine because I don't see/feel anything going via intake/exhaust.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2008 - 11:19:13 AM »
Well, leaktest should be done with camshaft in I understand so it will be for this time then. For the vibrations I checked the converter and I wonder
if this balanceweight is from chrysler or if his engineshop did this. Should be a standard converter from chrysler. I also could tighten the enginemount
to K-frame bolts a couple of turns so maybe the vibrations has several different causes. Since he also forgot to tighten the new exhaustsystem
I believe everything is possible.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2008 - 12:01:37 PM »
doesnt look like a factory weight to me...  :dunno:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2008 - 01:19:17 PM »
Why would a 440 need convertor weights? Is it a cast crank motor?
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2008 - 02:22:43 PM »
It's a -69 440 so it should be a steelcrank.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2008 - 02:25:26 PM »
It shouldn't have any weights on the convertor if it's a steel crank motor. 
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2008 - 04:13:39 PM »
Balancing done in -96 by a shop called Huntsville engine. What now if they have done a external balance, do I need to rebalance the complete
engine or would it be enough to change converter?
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2008 - 05:21:31 PM »
it all depends if thats the only thing they Changed. I dont see why a shop would switch a motor to external balance...

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2008 - 05:29:02 PM »
I have 2 aftermarket converters here and a stock one as well, all 3 have weights on them, they are on the sides though and not the face like that.  Maybe they are balancing weights for the converter?

These are all for either a stock 318 or my stroker both internally balanced with no vibrations.

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