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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #210 on: November 23, 2008 - 09:45:42 AM »
You say that you have a gauge on it,did you ever get to see an oil pressure reading?
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #211 on: November 23, 2008 - 09:46:38 AM »
is the bypass valve in the pump jammed , remove it & check for burrs or debris in the port

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #212 on: November 23, 2008 - 10:20:32 AM »
The first 20 minutes I had 80 PSI, second start a few hours later you have seen.

The block was machinewashed and the pump new, I will remove it and look for dirt. Does an jammed bypass valve increase the pressure
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #213 on: November 23, 2008 - 01:29:58 PM »
yup it will , you do not have to remove the pump to get at the bypass valve , just undo the large 7/8" nut

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #214 on: November 23, 2008 - 01:32:19 PM »
That is what I was thinking about the pump.  That is thick oil too, but will be fine in the summer.

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #215 on: November 23, 2008 - 01:44:52 PM »
I don`t run 50 w oil , eats too much power & is unessisary Except that 50 w is the only oils left with the zinc in it , os I use 10/40 with EOS or other ZDDp additive

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #216 on: November 23, 2008 - 02:02:55 PM »
cp look for brad penn the green oil/break in oil it has zinc and is for flat tappet cam my father in law uses this exlusively on all his antique cars.comes in different weights also.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #217 on: November 23, 2008 - 02:10:22 PM »
there is a dealer for that locally too  :2thumbs:

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #218 on: November 23, 2008 - 02:48:16 PM »
there is a dealer for that locally too  :2thumbs:

I suppose you mean here in this farmertown in Belgium?  :roflsmiley:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #219 on: November 23, 2008 - 03:01:09 PM »
I suppose you mean here in this farmertown in Belgium?  :roflsmiley:
sure just donwtown hang a right past the ww2bomb still sticking up out of the street and into the tsc farm supply store over there  :naughty:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #220 on: November 23, 2008 - 04:44:02 PM »
80 PSI should not blow apart a filter ............ twice. It almost has to have the bypass messed up where the pump is making maximum PSI.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #221 on: November 23, 2008 - 04:49:34 PM »
80 PSI should not blow apart a filter .

Doesn't the bypass open by 80 PSI, or does it depend on the build of the engine and such. (Sorry, I have no clue here).



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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #222 on: November 23, 2008 - 06:21:43 PM »
depends on the spring used in the bypass HP pumps dump at around 80 PSI
 I had a KB pump that held 175 PSI at idle , it had a double bypass spring inside , the Std pressure is around 35 - -50 psi

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #223 on: November 23, 2008 - 06:24:12 PM »
The bypass valve in the pump is supposed to open when the spring that controls it is overcome by oil pressure. A common trick before the advent of different springs, was to shim the spring to achieve higher pressure from the pump. 80 psi is not excessive pressure from the pump (20W50 in my 383 gives me this pressure cold), but I bet that the pressure is much higher at the oil filter when it blows, due to the design of the system. The common port for reading oil pressure is on the back of the lifter galley, and that is a looong way from the pump. I make a habit of disassembling the pressure relief valve before installing the pump, so that I can confirm free movement of the valve. The last Melling HV pump I purchased had a burr on the valve, which would have spelled disaster for my engine, had I started the engine without checking it first. I am willing to bet that this is what happened here, and the fix is simple, and easy to carry out without disassembling the engine. If there are no problems with the valve, and no trash in the pump to wedge it in place, and defeat its function, steal the pressure relief spring from your old pump, and use it. You might have the wrong spring in there, as the person that assembled your pump was likely not a highly-skilled, highly-paid technical type.

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #224 on: November 25, 2008 - 02:34:08 PM »
Don't find any dirt in the pump or valve. I do see that the pump didn't seal towards the block on the left side, sorry for the picquality.
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