Cam lobe wear

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Offline LAA66

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #225 on: November 25, 2008 - 08:47:51 PM »
 Did you push in on the pressure relief valve to see if it was free? It takes a bit of force to make them move. If that's OK then there must be something messed up in the oiling system, maybe why the last motor went south. Obviously right after the filter. Did anyone rod out all of the passages? What filter adapter if any are you using?




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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #226 on: November 26, 2008 - 02:12:37 PM »
"Old" pump installed, will wait 24 hours and retight before startup. If it still will leak I'm out of options. :dunno:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #227 on: November 29, 2008 - 10:34:46 AM »
Now I have problems to start it :banghead: With the battery fully charged it almost starts but then nothing, could it be because it's around 0° C
(freezing) and the eddy 750 need some extra help? :dunno:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #228 on: November 29, 2008 - 10:47:34 AM »
Could be the cold considering the thick oil.  Do you have any sort of heater to put out there?  Even a 100W light bulb under the oil pan would help lots.

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #229 on: November 29, 2008 - 10:52:13 AM »
Could be the cold considering the thick oil.  Do you have any sort of heater to put out there?  Even a 100W light bulb under the oil pan would help lots.

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Have a heater I can try, does aircleaner or not make a difference? I have chooke.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #230 on: November 29, 2008 - 10:57:17 AM »
 Mine doesn't like choke for some reason. The double pumper sends down plenty of fuel. Do you smell gasoline when trying to start it? Did you remove the distributor doing the oil pump? Just some guesses, good luck. :wave:

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #231 on: November 29, 2008 - 03:03:26 PM »
My ex challenger also had a eddy carb and was also almost impossible to start when it was cold. Will try tomorrow to warm it up with a blower.
Checked distributor and it's OK, fuel to carb also and no special fuelsmell from overfloating.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #232 on: November 29, 2008 - 03:10:59 PM »
Check and make sure you're not 180 out. Car sounds like it wants to start but can't is usually a symptom of that.

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #233 on: December 01, 2008 - 02:28:37 PM »
Swapped sparkplugs because the other ones was wet like the ocean. tried to start without pumping and still the same, it even pored some
gas out of the hole when I removed one plug. Could it be the idlescrew setting from the first startup? Why did it start that easily the first time?
Should I disconnect the electric choke?  :dunno:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #234 on: December 01, 2008 - 02:54:20 PM »
if the choke is not opening up within 1 minute or so with the key on the choke is not working or set too tight causing the flooding

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #235 on: December 01, 2008 - 03:42:00 PM »
If the plugs were all wet you probably washed the oil off the rings. It will not have compression or start without the oil film on the rings. Squirt some oil in each hole and crank it over a few times.

The symptom will be it will almost start but not start.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #236 on: December 01, 2008 - 03:54:29 PM »
If the plugs were all wet you probably washed the oil off the rings. It will not have compression or start without the oil film on the rings. Squirt some oil in each hole and crank it over a few times.

The symptom will be it will almost start but not start.

That's just what happens, the first crank after I have charged the battery it feels he wants to but then nothing.
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #237 on: December 01, 2008 - 09:55:20 PM »
 Bypass the choke and whatever priming mechanism you have, start cranking the engine, then hold the throttle open to clear the fuel.

 Being it's a new engine a "little" bit of oil in each spark plug hole now and again would be a good idea. Don't let the cranking wash everything off the walls.

 How does the oil smell on the dip stick or oil filler opening? Is there a definite fuel smell? If so you should change that also before too long.

 As a long shot, check your electrical to see if you are getting a good spark. Was anything removed or changed between the initial start up?

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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #238 on: December 02, 2008 - 11:07:24 AM »
With the electrical choke mechanicly blocked the car started after some serious pumping, but when it gets warm the carb gives way to much so there
is definetly something wrong with it. It's a new 750 vacuum, and again my question why the first 20 minutes went good.
What makes a eddy carb flooding without choke? :dunno:
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Re: Cam lobe wear
« Reply #239 on: December 02, 2008 - 11:16:05 AM »
the first 20 mins you were up in RPM , trying to idle it could be totally different , dirt in a needle/seat assy would be my first guess

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