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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2008 - 07:53:32 PM »
again the fender tag.

This is the last applicable pic.




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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2008 - 07:58:25 PM »
I hope everyone is happy now. I did this as a result of your prompting.
Members who have credibility.

If anything unethical happens to these pics & its info, it will not effect me.

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2008 - 07:58:51 PM »
Please dont feel you are being forced to show the tags. It is not required. Some just like to keep track of the tags for scams and options that are unique. If it makes you feel un comfortable, there is no need. Now some large pictures of the body, interior and under the hood is always good. I would think the car would bring 10k or better, but 18 is pushing it a bit.  It would be nice for you to get top dollar for the reason you posted :2thumbs:

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2008 - 08:04:13 PM »
To answer your question about the vin number.  I don't think that anyone can really do much with the actual numbers for your vin and fender tag.   The vin is the only thing that anyone could do anything with but that would require an awful lot of conterfeiting.  There are so many of us who have posted vin numbers that yours are probably just lost in the jumble of a thousand other peoples vin numbers.  
  I for one put alot of value on the fender tag for a car.  There are some people out there who could care less for the fender tag and the cars history.   However, I would not purchase a car with0ut the fender tag unless it was a high dollar car like a hemi or 440-6.  
  The pictures you have posted are very helpful to many people here.  To answer the other questions, the vin numbers, last 6 numbers of the vin, should be stamped somewhere around the radiator support and on the cowl by the plastic screens just under the windshield.  These stamps are how you can tell if the actual body of the car match the vin numbers on the dash stamp.  Because the dash's are removeable, over the years some have been switched with other cars.  This is why people want to know if the stamps match the vin tag on the dash.
  The other question regarding a numbers matching car.  This usually refers mostly to wether or not the engine and transmission are the original parts coming from the factory.  On the passengers side of the engine block, just above where the oil pan mounts to the engine, about in the middle of the block.  There is going to be a stamp of the vin numbers that are on your vin tag, fender tag, and the two stamp places I mentioned earlier.  These are how you can tell if the car is      " numbers matching"  .  I unfortunately cannot tell you where the numbers are on the transmission to know if it is matching.  Over 40 years, alot of things can happen to a car and a replaced transmission or engine block is not unheard of.  This is why all the questions for numbers.  
  We all hope the best for your sale here and hope this site can be of some assistance in the sale.  
Good luck and we all want to hear more of the numbers questions and answers from you.
  
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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2008 - 08:12:51 PM »
 :bigshades: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: vary vary enteresting!
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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2008 - 08:30:13 PM »
Just to let you know, if the car does not sell it may end up down under.
I actually live in Melbourne Australia and I am only here in Canada help
my mother with her affairs then I get to go home.

I have a guy in Melbourne I use to work with who wants to ship it to
Australia. He has a mustang fastback he has restored and wants my
car.

I hope it gets to stay in  :canada: or  :wavingflag: as this is its home
and place of birth.

Thanks for your attention. Now I get to go out on the town and have dinner.

See ya :bigsmile: :cheers:

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2008 - 08:35:23 PM »
People like us are crazy about ebodies.  We like to see fender tags.  Its really that simple.   :dunno:

I'm Steve, btw.  Good luck with the sale. 

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2008 - 09:03:40 PM »
 :bigshades: how can I pay for the car if I purchase.
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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2008 - 01:14:34 AM »
 :clueless:

Thanks for your email about how to purchase it.
That is a very good question, as I had not thought
about it. Do you have any ideas so it would be
safe for both parties? What is the norm? I would
think you would want to look at it first?

I am in Calgary, Alberta and the car is in Red Deer, Alberta
(about 1.5-2 hours away). It would be
ideal if you were somewhere in Alberta too, or for
that matter somewhere in Canada, for simplicity
sake. I had not thought of the actual transaction details.

I am not sure if you are just fielding the question about purchasing
or If you are interested in purchasing. It would also depend on
where the other party is located? If not closeby - does the
prospective purchaser know anyone in or around Calgary Alberta
Canada to represent them if they can not come to Calgary/Red Deer?

I would look to yourself & others for guidance regarding this if I may.  :1zhelp:

P.S.  Thanks to all for all the input posted above. I went for dinner and thought
about what all of you have had to say and can see where you are coming
from. It is good to see & be aware of both sides. It was kinda fun too. I
enjoy a good debate here and there. This forum thing could be very addictive!  :chatting:
In fact, since my mom and I decided to sell this car I have thoroughly
enjoyed this whole experience (the good and the bad) as well as the researching
on the internet about challengers and all the pictures of challengers I have looked at. It is a
great interest and I understand why you are so protective of it. :worshippy

 

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2008 - 04:09:27 AM »
Thanks so much to those of you who were friendly & patient with me --
it was very much appreciated. I understand your defensiveness & protection
of the sport and your point of view, but.........

From my point of view I think for me this was an interesting trip across the
border without my passport.

Although some in the world think Canadians and Americans are the same,
Canada is different --- as well as similar to the US. Our Canadian politics are
definitely not as exciting as  :wavingflag: I say that because I am an  :wavingflag:
political junkie because I like the drama. It is my vice, my weakness and
my hobby. And God Bless America for all the drama and entertainment in
all arenas. But more often than not, I am the observer in the drama and not
the one being observed. So this was a different experience for me.

However, many do not even have an opinion about Canadians, because
they do not know we even exist & perhaps think we are just eskimos
with hockey sticks that sound funny when they say "roof" and ask questions
simply by putting "eh" at the end of a sentence.

While others see us as honest, polite, law abiding,
peacemakers and just generally a great quiet neighbour (but also spelt neighbor).
While others see us with an endless supply of comedians and actors that defect
to the promise land  :wavingflag: and then everyone forgets that they
are actually from  :canada: except for the canadians in :canada:  But we Canadians
do not toot our own horn or whine about it. Canadians are Ok with it all
- dont worry - we do not mind sharing as it is part of our nature.  

But who in the world calls their Beer simply --( Canadian )-- after their people!
Where else in the world do they do that that? And more importantly Why?

What I can honestly say after living outside of Canada for some time is........
Canada is a very special place with extraordinary people, incredible lands & waters,
weather, fauna & opportunities to enjoy life just the way you want & choose.
But i must say, by far the most outstanding feature of  :canada: and Canadians,
in general, is their helpfulness & acceptance of others including their opinions &
diversity & questions----almost to a fault.

Canada & Canadians have more substance than people give us credit for
and perhaps more patience. From my point of view and in general, Canadians are the
most polite, helpful, genuinely nice people I have come across. I was not off
the highway more than one minute than I had 3 cars pull over to help me out
and offer me their cell phone to use and of course at no cost or
inconvenience, then offered to sit with me until the tow truck came, offered coffee and
a Tim Horton's donut. Canadians -- If they can help you out, they will,
even if it puts them out. I am not saying that this would not happen in the US, I am
just commenting on what I know and have experienced in Canada more times than I
can say or count.

Just some food for thought the next time a neighbour/neighbor stops by for
a friendly chat and showing their wares for sale. Again, Thanks for your
helpful comments I do not wish to discount or diminish those that were
welcoming and sincere and educational. We never know when we might be a stranger
in a foreign land and need a little help or guidance and a helping hand.  :clapping:




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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2008 - 04:38:10 AM »
Wow, that was a mouthful. :faint:  Best of luck with the sale and it's definitely a worthy cause. :2thumbs:  It's good to read that you didn't take all the suggestions as complete insults as we car enthusiasts are always trying to look out for others who share the same passion, but may have less knowledge on the subject matter.  I've seen quite a few burns (not personally), whether it be parts or cars that were advertised and not actually available, so it's always good to see fellow board members "drilling" newcomers to ensure they aren't here for any malicious activities. :cheers: :thumbsup:  Enjoying your stay in Canada, eh? :lol2:  It could always be worse as I'm in the NE part of WI close to the U.P. of MI (a.k.a. Yooper land) and always get pestered when I mention where my hometown is (about your reference to the Great White North's concept of adding "eh" to the end of sentences to turn them into questions). :cheers:
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1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo....The sunny day cruiser (RTBoost)
1990 Toyota Celica GT Liftback...........The new daily & winter driver.
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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2008 - 07:39:28 AM »
well bella, I have to say thank-you. you have helped me make my 70 post quota that was suggested to me at one time by a senior member. That was quite the information session on Canada and the Canadian people. I think you will find the community here will be very helpful in the short or the long run. I have to run now, sorry. My roof needs repair and we all know the ice making season is very short up here.  :roflsmiley: :roflsmiley: :cheers:
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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2008 - 03:49:34 PM »
I am glad I could be some help in getting you to that magical number of 70 posts. Well Done!! :clapping:

It was a pleasure to assist you in your journey to credibility!!

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By the way, does anyone know how many dodge challengers from the 1970s (1970-1974) era are know to exist today? I am just curious. There seems to be a lot out there. More than I anticipated.

As well, I am now in a position to take OFFERS on my car, since the credible members of this websit have kindly advised my car is overpriced, not a desirable colour, a v6 only, with damage and rust. So give me your BEST OFFER ANYBODY OUT THERE. :money:

Thanks


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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2008 - 03:51:45 PM »
I got to go out for awhile, so do not think I am ignoring you. I just need to go do errands. But keep the OFFERS coming PLEASE. I will respond when I return.

Thanks

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Re: 1971 DODGE CHALLENGER SURVIVOR CAR -- ORIGINAL OWNER
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2008 - 04:50:43 PM »
By the way, does anyone know how many dodge challengers from the 1970s (1970-1974) era are know to exist today? I am just curious. There seems to be a lot out there. More than I anticipated.


Nobody knows how many Challengers are still around but if 138000 or so were built and less then a third or so still exist then we could guess there may be about 40000+ left.   Many of them are parts cars and rusted to the ground though
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