Most correctly restored Challenger ever?

[sleepychallenger]

Dave,

Did you just happen into a car that was those colors or did you actively search for that? really pretty. love it. 

[70challrtse]

Dave, to be clear, I used the term "hater" as hyperbole to describe what I sometimes perceive to be a critical tone related to how other hobbyists enjoy their cars. Such as, "well it should look good he never drives it", "it's a Checkbook resto", and "how could you possibly enjoy that car you never drive it". I do much of the work on my cars myself, but I wouldn't dream of imposing my perspective or values on others by being critical of how others construct or use their cars. Incidentally, I enjoyed meeting your wife and children, but the way you introduced me to your wife was a bit embarrassing. 

[Roppa440]

I for one would love to see in detail of how you sprayed the "downstanding flange" on the bottom edge of the lower sill with the matt black. I have found it very difficult to find any photos of unrestored cars with this area clearly imaged.
That flange sure looks ugly when it is not painted yet you never normally see restorations with it done.

[KZ]

Ok, so I'll show my ignorance with this observation........this '70 resto, which is absolutely gorgeous, has, I believe, electronic ignition. Was that available in 1970? Or is this an acceptable "change" from the OEM when one chooses to restore "correctly"?

[torredcuda]

I think you are mistaking an electronic voltage regulator for electronic ignition.

Beautifull car,love the blue interior and the blue stripe really makes it unique.

[KZ]

you are correct, kind of, I WAS talking about electronic ignition, I based that on seeing the electronic voltage regulator and assumed the car had an ECU installed. I'll show my ignorance again, but I was under the impression you didn't use electronic voltage regulators unless you had an electronic ignition, otherwise, if you had your stock '70 ignition system (i.e points and condenser) you would use the standard ballast resistor

[71340RT]

you are correct, kind of, I WAS talking about electronic ignition, I based that on seeing the electronic voltage regulator and assumed the car had an ECU installed. I'll show my ignorance again, but I was under the impression you didn't use electronic voltage regulators unless you had an electronic ignition, otherwise, if you had your stock '70 ignition system (i.e points and condenser) you would use the standard ballast resistor

The electronic voltage regulator is for the alternator not the ignition system so you will have a votage regulator with points or electronic ignition systems.
Jeff

[KZ]

I know what the voltage regulator does, but would you have an electronic voltage regulator with a point type ignition system? The reason I ask is that yrs ago, I changed my point type ignition system on my '70 RT/SE to an electronic ignition system. Went down to the local car show one weekend and it only took several hrs before the car stalled. The battery was completely dead.  When I had the car towed to the shop, they said it was because I needed an electronic voltage regulator to go with the electronic ignition, the std voltage regulator wouldn't work. So if I see an electronic voltage regulator on a Mopar, I assume it must have an electronic ignition. Yes? No?

[hemiken]

Thanks for the "welcome" Kenny!  It is a pleasure to be here.  If there are certain pictures you are interested in please let me know and I will be happy to post them. 

Hi Dave,

Just would like to see some really nice shots of the car parked on its own without people around it if possible

[OEresto.]

1970 all cars had electronic voltage regulators , alt. switched to two feild wires not one grounded to case.

[Ghost]

It's a nice car, extremely detailed.  Alot of time and effort was spent into this.  But (and I mean no offense), frankly I just don't see the big attraction of having it 100% factory correct.

[ShelbyDogg]

I know what the voltage regulator does, but would you have an electronic voltage regulator with a point type ignition system? The reason I ask is that yrs ago, I changed my point type ignition system on my '70 RT/SE to an electronic ignition system. Went down to the local car show one weekend and it only took several hrs before the car stalled. The battery was completely dead.  When I had the car towed to the shop, they said it was because I needed an electronic voltage regulator to go with the electronic ignition, the std voltage regulator wouldn't work. So if I see an electronic voltage regulator on a Mopar, I assume it must have an electronic ignition. Yes? No?

All 70s had and electronic voltage regulator as pictured. The 69s and earlier had a relay-type points regulator but also had a single field alternator.  You probably had a loose ground on yours, the shop sold you a new one, and could tell that you didn't know the difference when they explained it to you.
Rob

[NoMope Greg]

No offense taken!  Just out of curiosity, what would be considered a "big attraction" or big deal?  After market wheels and tires?  Air Shocks?  Shackles?  Shag carpet?  Side Pipes?  Or how about a tunnel ram hood scoop?  I always thought that attempting something that had not been done (since the factory did it 39 years ago) WAS a thing of extreme deviation and/or difficulty.  Try finding an NOS correct date coded air conditioning condenser still in the factory original packaging.  After the months it takes to do that, then you can proceed to find the other 300 plus NOS parts that is just as hard to locate.  If that all falls in place, then try and assemble every single piece in a fashion that does not look deliberate or restored by someone after the fact.  If your $600 per gallon paint job doesn't turn out exact with the correct over spray pattern, orange peel or has too much dirt, (that you cannot wet sand out because it would take away from the factory patina) you simply start all over from scratch.  (Three times to be exact!)  Certainly not as impressive or difficult as getting a J.C Whitney exhaust system or an Aftermarket Aluminum Intake Manifold or Year One Seat Covers or........

Dave, please don't patronize him or anyone else.  Ghost, a long-time member of this forum and a Young Gun, began his post by paying tribute to the obvious time and effort put forth by you and everyone else that worked on this car.  His last sentence is in no way an insult to you or your team.  Instead, I believe it's an honest expression that "factory-correct" restorations of this type are not his cup of tea and he (and I) don't understand the attraction. 

You had the opportunity to explain what it is about this end of the hobby that you find satisfying as opposed to modifying the car.  Instead, you choose to post something that drips with attitude.  Why not show a little respect to your fellow enthusiasts and tell us why it's enjoyable to you pursue having it as "correct" as possible?  And show a little respect to those of us who prefer to do it differently - even if it means we buy our seat covers at Year One and put aluminum intakes on our non-numbers matching engines.

[360 'CUDA]

Hi Dave, great car!!


I'm glad that folks still go for that 100% perfect factory look and you certainly have a great business helping others achieve that goal.  On the other side of the fence is Bob Johnson at the hot rod shop who takes old cars and comepletely modifies them to where not even the roof is factory anymore.  That's the great thing about this hobby. Anyone can get involved on either end or build a nice car in between 

[Roppa440]

I still want to see a good photo of the blackout on the bottom of the sills.