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Offline 422STROKER

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2008 - 06:54:53 PM »
I'm guessing there are no part #'s on it anywhere?

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2008 - 06:55:51 PM »
Also you could try Indy Auto Parts in Peabody for a new set, they can usually get it next day.

Good pricing too.

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2008 - 08:44:41 PM »
Also you could try Indy Auto Parts in Peabody for a new set, they can usually get it next day.

Good pricing too.

Tom

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Tom, I forgot you were local.. stop by sometime if you like... the part number on the box is 9-3104... on the cam gear the only numbers I see is 8380.... yea I know where Indy is
forgot all about that place.. drove right by it today now that I think of it.. I'll have to check with them for parts and prices thanks.

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2008 - 05:45:31 PM »
got the timing chain squared away :clapping: :clapping:
what are the tq settings for the rockers, cam bolt and intake manifold??
finally getting somehwere :cooldancing:

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2008 - 06:45:40 PM »
was wondering if this look normal for the pushrods.. not sure how oil passes through?

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2008 - 07:23:36 PM »
It doesn't. Oil is fed to the rockers through the heads.
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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2008 - 07:27:01 PM »
It's normal.  Pushrods don't have oil flowing through them.  They're hollow tubes because of weight - they only need to be strong enough to transfer the movement of the camshaft up to the rockers.  Solid rods would provide no more strength advantage than a hollow tube.  The would be more weight that would have to start and stop for each rotation of the camshaft, sucking up horsepower and wearing out the lifters and camlobes quicker.  The tips are splash oiled.
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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2008 - 08:34:19 PM »
If you have hollow pushrods and new lifters you should get pressurized oil to the rocker.  But solids are fine.  I used to have hollow ones with my stamped steel rockers, but went to adj, so no holes for me.

Glad the timing gear is good, what was it?

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2008 - 09:28:09 PM »
glad to hear I dont have to buy pushrods...
ok. this is embarrassing get ready.. :popcorn:
my dad got me out there early this morning, he got a wire, put it in the #1 cylinder, he told me to turn the balancer to the left until he says stop, then had me turn it back in the opposite direction and stop when he says. the did this again to the right and back to the left and then said stop.. he says where is your mark. it was dead strait up.. he then took the gears and chain the first shot at it and that was it, perfect.. I dont know how he did it, but it's on....

so hopefully I get more done, now thats out of the way... I can wait to hear it run.

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2008 - 11:58:20 PM »
glad to hear I dont have to buy pushrods...
ok. this is embarrassing get ready.. :popcorn:
my dad got me out there early this morning, he got a wire, put it in the #1 cylinder, he told me to turn the balancer to the left until he says stop, then had me turn it back in the opposite direction and stop when he says. the did this again to the right and back to the left and then said stop.. he says where is your mark. it was dead strait up.. he then took the gears and chain the first shot at it and that was it, perfect.. I dont know how he did it, but it's on....

so hopefully I get more done, now thats out of the way... I can wait to hear it run.


Dad's have a way of doing things like that when it comes to working on cars.  There has been many a time when I'm stuggling to get something to work properly on my car and my dad says do this or that or he come over and sure enough its the way it is supposed to be.  I'm a dad now and I still have not gotten to that point, when exactly does that day come? :clueless:
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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #70 on: September 05, 2008 - 04:43:05 PM »
yea.. Dads always doing something, I tried to do as much as I can on my own....
got another question.. now that the timing marks are lined up, would this be a good time to set the distributer in where the rotor meets number one on the cap??

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #71 on: September 05, 2008 - 06:53:51 PM »
When the #1 piston is at the top in the compression stroke the rotor should be pointing at the #1 cap tower. If the the vacuum advance pot is not facing where you want it, just pull the oil pump shaft up and re-orient it to where you want the rotor to point.
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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #72 on: September 05, 2008 - 07:13:11 PM »
when the timing marks are lined up, is that when both valves should be closed on number 1 cylinder?

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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #73 on: September 05, 2008 - 10:43:58 PM »
I feel like I'm in the twilight zone....  :eek7:  I think we addressed this already a few pages ago on this thread.

I've always just lined up the timing marks at their closest points with the cam gear dot on the bottom, crank gear dot on top, then bumped the motor over at the relay using a screwdriver till I felt compression in the #1 hole, lined up the mark on the dampner with zero for TDC, popped in the distributor with the rotor indexed to #1 on the cap, and then started it up and broke in the cam. That's the quick easy driveway cam swap way. The whole process never took me more than an afternoon. I never really remember looking to see if all these events occured at the same exact point and never really cared if they did or not. Maybe somebody else knows without going into a 6 paragraph dissertation? CP???
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Re: in the process of removing camshaft need help
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2008 - 11:33:03 PM »
I feel like I'm in the twilight zone....  :eek7:  I think we addressed this already a few pages ago on this thread.

I've always just lined up the timing marks at their closest points with the cam gear dot on the bottom, crank gear dot on top, then bumped the motor over at the relay using a screwdriver till I felt compression in the #1 hole, lined up the mark on the dampner with zero for TDC, popped in the distributor with the rotor indexed to #1 on the cap, and then started it up and broke in the cam. That's the quick easy driveway cam swap way. The whole process never took me more than an afternoon. I never really remember looking to see if all these events occured at the same exact point and never really cared if they did or not. Maybe somebody else knows without going into a 6 paragraph dissertation? CP???

now that the timing marks are lined up, would this be a good time to set the distributer in where the rotor meets number one on the cap??  That was a simple yes or no question.
wasn't looking for a sarcastic summary.. :roflsmiley:

to remind you this is my first car I worked on I just turned 21, sorry for the lack of knoledge!!    and you stated  (The whole process never took me more than an afternoon.) hopefully I wont have to repeat as many times as you :stirpot:
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