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Offline Srobinson4

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Clutch Problem
« on: August 29, 2008 - 10:54:41 PM »
My clutch has little to no tension, in other words when pressed it goes to the floor, comes up approximately one inch and stays there.  If I want to I can lift it with my foot back to the original position.  I can also, continue to shift gears but the clutch will not spring all the way back up.   Is this serious?  What could be wrong?  I hope I have explained this problem well enough for diagnoses.  Tranny A833 four speed.  This problem started today.  Do you think I can drive it to the shop which is about 13 miles away or should I have it towed.  Thanks for your help.
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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2008 - 12:43:52 AM »
try adjusting ther clutch first it may be too short to push the pedal up properly if not the pressure palte has failed , try driving the car if the PP holds drive it if it slips  tow it

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2008 - 10:16:38 PM »
Thanks!  Trannys are something I wish I knew more about.

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008 - 05:01:09 PM »
Chryco, I too have this problem.  My clutch pedal is low, however it functions correctly.  I usually press it all the way to the floor when I shift, but it only comes up about  2"-2 1/2".  If I go w.o.t., and shift fast, it will bark the tires pretty good so I know its not slipping.  I can pull the clutch pedal up with my hand and that big spring will hold it up, but the first time I press on it, it jumps back close to the floor.  The last time I was under the car, I noticed that the threaded adjuster rod is bent and rusted in place.  Ill have to get a picture of it friday and post it up for you.  The car may have the wrong linkage on it now.  Are there different clutch forks as well?  I have a new clutch adjustent set but I haven't installed it yet.  Will that rod push the clutch pedal back up where it needs to be?  This is the kit I got from brewers.




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1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc 505 hp/506 ft lbs|4 speed|Posi|3.73s
1969 C/10  350|Turbo 350
1969 Dodge D300 318|4 speed|Dana|4.88s
1972Nova: 350|Turbo 350
1974 'Cuda: 340|4 speed|Dana 60|4.10s|posi
1999 Camaro SS: Auto|Longtube Headers|True Duals|TT2s
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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008 - 01:22:54 AM »
it should , lengthening the adj pushrod will force the pedal higher so ads s long as the new pushrod is longer the pedal should stop at the top , with the pedal down the rerlease brg runs constantly & will wear out prematurely
 there are also different lenght forks

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Offline 74 340 4speed

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008 - 03:23:34 PM »
Thanks chryco!  I think my car may have the incorrect fork/linkage causing it to not function correctly.  When I first started working on the car it had a b-body shifter in it, so it wouldn't surpise me if the clutch fork and linkage came from a late 60s bb b-body car.  Where can I get a clutch fork at for a reasonable price?  I've only seen them at two places and they are both $90.
Andy
1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc 505 hp/506 ft lbs|4 speed|Posi|3.73s
1969 C/10  350|Turbo 350
1969 Dodge D300 318|4 speed|Dana|4.88s
1972Nova: 350|Turbo 350
1974 'Cuda: 340|4 speed|Dana 60|4.10s|posi
1999 Camaro SS: Auto|Longtube Headers|True Duals|TT2s
2013 Challenger R/T: 6 speed|Hurst with pistol grip|mopar performance exhaust|super track pak

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008 - 09:02:04 PM »
Check out my thread below titled "340 4-speed Z bar help". I took pictures so you can see the difference for the correct 340 application. Go to Brewer's site and they have some great pictures for you to reference. I changed mine to the correct linkage.

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008 - 01:24:01 AM »
Check out my thread below titled "340 4-speed Z bar help". I took pictures so you can see the difference for the correct 340 application. Go to Brewer's site and they have some great pictures for you to reference. I changed mine to the correct linkage.

Thanks for the info :thumbsup:
Andy
1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc 505 hp/506 ft lbs|4 speed|Posi|3.73s
1969 C/10  350|Turbo 350
1969 Dodge D300 318|4 speed|Dana|4.88s
1972Nova: 350|Turbo 350
1974 'Cuda: 340|4 speed|Dana 60|4.10s|posi
1999 Camaro SS: Auto|Longtube Headers|True Duals|TT2s
2013 Challenger R/T: 6 speed|Hurst with pistol grip|mopar performance exhaust|super track pak

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008 - 03:57:39 AM »
  Just a thought, is the spring on the pedal under the dash located correctly, it may not be working properly.   :2cents:
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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008 - 09:05:31 PM »
How is it supposed to be?  Do you have any photos I can reference?  I would really appreciate the info.  I'll try my best to get some pictures tomorrow, but I may not be able to.  I'm pulling the motor/trans out of my Camaro for a new setup, so I don't know how long that is going to take.
Andy
1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc 505 hp/506 ft lbs|4 speed|Posi|3.73s
1969 C/10  350|Turbo 350
1969 Dodge D300 318|4 speed|Dana|4.88s
1972Nova: 350|Turbo 350
1974 'Cuda: 340|4 speed|Dana 60|4.10s|posi
1999 Camaro SS: Auto|Longtube Headers|True Duals|TT2s
2013 Challenger R/T: 6 speed|Hurst with pistol grip|mopar performance exhaust|super track pak

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008 - 02:59:32 AM »
if the pedal is spring loaded down until the last inch & a half & then pops up to the top the spring is in correctly

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009 - 11:51:59 PM »
Chryco, I installed the new parts on my car today.  It did bring the clutch pedal back up, and now it is even with the brake pedal.  If I pull the brake pedal up slightly with my foot, the big spring will pull it up so that it is about 1-1.5" higher than the brake pedal.  However, when I push the clutch in, the big spring will not pull it back up to the top, the pedal remains even with my brake pedal.  Does the pedal need to be higher?  I have a little free play now, maybe a quarter of an inch or so.  All of my free play is in the distance the pedal doesn't want to return without assistance.  Do I need to replace this spring?
Andy
1967 Camaro SS: 406 sbc 505 hp/506 ft lbs|4 speed|Posi|3.73s
1969 C/10  350|Turbo 350
1969 Dodge D300 318|4 speed|Dana|4.88s
1972Nova: 350|Turbo 350
1974 'Cuda: 340|4 speed|Dana 60|4.10s|posi
1999 Camaro SS: Auto|Longtube Headers|True Duals|TT2s
2013 Challenger R/T: 6 speed|Hurst with pistol grip|mopar performance exhaust|super track pak

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2009 - 12:10:20 AM »
since we are on this topic, and i dont want to hijack, i am having the issue of the pedal coming up like 74 said, 1-1.5 inches too high, and if i stomp it from 2-3 or 3-4, the clutch slips till i let off and then it grabs. should i adjust the fork rod some more?

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2009 - 04:01:39 AM »
I guess I missed this , you need to get the pedal to the top so it sits above the brake pedal then adjust the the free play , you should have 1/2-1" of free play when the pedal is topped out

 if the clutch is slipping with you foot off the pedal you need a better clutch

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Re: Clutch Problem
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2009 - 08:45:50 AM »
I guess I missed this , you need to get the pedal to the top so it sits above the brake pedal then adjust the the free play , you should have 1/2-1" of free play when the pedal is topped out

 if the clutch is slipping with you foot off the pedal you need a better clutch
when i let out, it comes even with the brake pedal, then if i take my foot away, it will eventually snap up the 1.5 inches to the stop. dang it, the clutch is a brand new hays unit. wasnt planning on buying a new clutch this early.