Author Topic: Originality question  (Read 3445 times)

Offline Troy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 294
Originality question
« on: September 04, 2008 - 12:46:55 PM »
A while back I started a thread about a 70 Challenger that I picked up. Originally a 340 (A66), console auto in sublime with a black interior, black bumblebee stripe, and A/C. It is missing the drive train but the rest is there and it's pretty solid. I did a bit of research to see how rare the car is and didn't get any definitive answers. I had initially written off putting a 340 in the car because they tend to be tough to find and expensive. Plus, I have a lot of stuff left over from my Barracuda - including a 5.9 Magnum and 5.7 Hemi (both with low miles). I figured a modern engine with good brakes and suspension would be just as much fun as a stock restoration.

Well, here's my dilemma: I found a complete 340 that's within about a month prior to my car's build date. While it will never be "numbers matching" and it's not quite "date correct" it is the right year with all the original parts on it. This makes the cost much more acceptable (although I'd still have to track down all the other correct engine compartment items to match). The engine just needs freshened up but I could upgrade the internals while I have it apart so that it looks stock but has a bit more punch to it.

I am a fan of stock/restored cars as well as modern technology so I'm not particular about which way I go with this car. If the car has some sort of historical significance I'd like to make it as original as possible but, if not, then I will modify things a bit. The cost for the 340 is on par with the 5.9 - although the 5.9 will have more power just because of the heads and intake. The Hemi is the most expensive and difficult route but probably the most streetable when finished. I do drive my cars a LOT. I think I'll be happy no matter which direction I choose but what would you guys do in a similar situation?

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.




Offline DAYTONA

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1760
Re: Originality question
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2008 - 04:25:02 PM »
...if you like to attend car shows, go 340....if you just wanna have fun, why not do the HEMI....either way, it is a very KOOL car and color combo

Offline wiiildcat

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 363
Re: Originality question
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008 - 04:30:50 PM »
I've been wanting to do a modern hemi drive line car, so this sounds like the way I would go but as my wife will tell you, I am not that bright when I get ideas lol. I think if you drive it alot and even cruise nights the hemi would be cool to show and a blast to drive.

Offline 72hemi

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 4812
  • MEMBER SINCE JANUARY 2006
Re: Originality question
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2008 - 04:37:20 PM »
Being someone who owns an A66 car that I am getting ready to do a full restoration on (4 speed plum crazy white interior/bumble bee stripe) I vote for installing a 340 in it. I love to drive my cars as well and haven't had any real problems with reliability, or dependability with the old technology. At the end of the day it is your car and you should do with it as you want, but if you are planning on taking it to Mopar shows and drop a 5.9 or hemi in it you might catch some guff from some purists.
1972 Dodge Challenger 340 6 Pack 4-speed
1996 Dodge Viper GTS Coupe

Offline Oldschool

  • Administrator
  • Permanent Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 13195
  • Member Since 9-05-06
Re: Originality question
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2008 - 04:45:12 PM »
340  --  THEY ROCK.....    :ylsuper:     
Ken  --  In Georgia

MOPAR-------"Built To Run------Here To Stay"

Offline 2TAGS

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 199
Re: Originality question
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2008 - 05:11:08 PM »
I vote 340 too!   :ylsuper:

Did you see this thread on A66 cars?

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=45874.0
1971 'Cuda 340

Offline Troy

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 294
Re: Originality question
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2008 - 05:30:09 PM »
I vote 340 too!   :ylsuper:

Did you see this thread on A66 cars?

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=45874.0

Thanks! I was actually trying to find that thread. There have been a few more threads on the subject as well since the last time I did any research.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

Offline Super Blue 72

  • Permanent Resident
  • *******
  • Posts: 12711
  • "Big 'n Little" Member since 8/9/05
    • Phil's Super Blue '72
Re: Originality question
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2008 - 05:39:14 PM »
IMO, go 340 since it was a 340 A66 car and you like stock cars.

Besides, 340s are more hard to find, have more "history" and image behind them. 


Besides, 340s are cool!  :smokin:
1972 Dodge Challenger Rallye 340, AT, Code TB3=Super Blue, SBD=8/17/1971.  Yes, a Rallye without the fender louvers from the factory because of the body side molding option.

Pic #2 and 3 of my ARII 1/24 scale model car 

Phil in New England-Massachusetts  Always thank God for what you have!

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/456046/1972-dodge-challenger

Offline moparnut

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 2410
  • Nutin like a nice Piece of Hickory"Clint Eastwood
    • My Photo's
Re: Originality question
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2008 - 09:28:46 PM »
My 2 cents
Dont worry about originality, once the drive train is gone no ones cares. Slap a BB or hemi in it and have fun. Its pointless to worry about getting everything original when its not numbers, in my opinion.
70 Barracuda Gran Coupe,383-4bbl,# Match
2012 Subaru Forester
70 D100 Adventurer 383 pickup
02 F250 S'cab Powerstroke 7.3 4x4 6 speed Manual
06 Honda VTX1800S Spec 3

Offline cudadave72

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1857
  • you motorboatin sob!!!
Re: Originality question
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2008 - 09:51:33 PM »
340 all the way!! :2thumbs:
1972 BS23 H code Cuda, B5 blue, 340 streched to 416 cu in, 727 w/ 8 3/4 rear, 7.23 in the 1/8 mile and 11.38@117mph in the 1/4 on drag radials   Under restoration! Coming soon... 440cuin R3 Indy SMALL BLOCK monster!!!!


Offline Grasshopper

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 144
Re: Originality question
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008 - 09:04:40 AM »
All the value was stripped out of my car so I am going the hemi route.

Oh....I am not a particularly bright man either!! 

If you do decide to do the Hemi, there are a few of us here currently  doing the same thing and comparing notes to help each other out.  Join us!!  I'm not sure if it a case of "all great minds think alike" OR  "misery loves company"!!  :roflsmiley:

If the car's originality has already been compromised, my vote is for the Hemi.

Offline torredcuda

  • Sr. Resident
  • ******
  • Posts: 6218
  • Epping NH joined 11/23/03
Re: Originality question
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008 - 09:12:44 AM »
Modern Hemi conversions are going to be like Hemi clones-you-ll see a lot of them.An A66 340 car will be fairly rare and just as much fun IMO and unless somebody actually checks the numbers they`ll never know if it`s macthing or not.
Jeff
72 Barracuda 340/4spd  Torred
70 roadrunner 383/auto  In-Violet
70 Duster 360/auto drag car  (Petty Blue soon)
04 Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi

Offline gtx6970

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 99
    • A+M Hightech Automotive
Re: Originality question
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008 - 10:11:28 AM »
Another alternative is just give ME the car I'll take care  of it in a private ceremony
Bill Allphin
A+M Hightech Automotive
What can we do for your car.

Offline Chryco Psycho

  • Administrator
  • C-C.com Guru
  • *****
  • Posts: 36620
  • 70 Challenger R/T SE 70 tube Chassis Cuda now sold
Re: Originality question
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008 - 10:28:26 AM »
it really doesn`t matter which way you go any of the 3 choices will work , I would build what you are most happy with , the 340 can be installed at any point down the road if you use the Hemi or 5.9

Challenger - You`ll wish You Hadn`t

Offline 71340RT

  • Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 3502
Re: Originality question
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008 - 10:34:22 AM »
I would go the 340 route as both my Cuda and Challenger are 340 cars. They give me very little problems and I drive them both where ever they go. I drive the Challenger to the Nationals everyear which is 450 miles each way and never have a problem and it has AC for the hot days. A Hemi would be nice but the A66 are cool and will always stand out in a crowd.


70 Plymouth Cuda 340 4-speed
71 Dodge Challenger RT 340 automatic
1973 Dodge Challenger 360 automatic EFI
2002 Harley Davidson Dyna Wide Glide
2003 Dodge Stratus RT coupe
2009 Challenger RT Classic B5 Blue
2014 Ram Express 5.7 Hemi 4X4