Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A

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Offline cudadave72

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2008 - 09:27:56 PM »
That must be on hella of a ride. Sweet!! :2thumbs:
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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008 - 03:12:57 AM »
The Posey car wasn't there, but the Gurney AAR was - and led most of his race.  I'm not sure if he won - I had to leave with a few laps remaining.  More photos are here: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=49508.0

HP, this is the only actual photo I got of the Panhard mount.  I got two 3 second videos because I apparently had my camera set to video and didn't realize it.  I'll send those to you via e-mail.














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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008 - 07:06:22 AM »
Thanks Greg!

That is one mean looking ride.

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2008 - 10:01:56 PM »
I happened to be flipping through channels this weekend and saw a vintage race on Speed channel and saw the 77 car doing battle. Pretty awesome!
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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2008 - 04:12:26 PM »
Hey the 76 car wore a vinyl top and it was acid dipped 2 many times and didnt survive, the 77 car still exists and still races, thats gotta be a real good replica of the 76 tho

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2008 - 10:31:25 PM »
The #76 is not a replica, and does not have a vinyl top.
One story I heard was that these cars had been acid dipped too much and that the roof failed during qualifying for one of the races.  So in a mad scramble to fix it, they went out and rented a new Challenger, and cut the roof off to replace the one on the race car!!
I am not clear on the entire story of the #76 car and the #77 car, however I do recall that the 76 was an automatic!  The #77 was a manual. However when I saw the #76 at the Nats it had a manual.
It was raced in SCCA events until the early 80's relatively unchanged from how it was in 1970 other than the paint, and some odds and ends.  It was raced by a driver with spina bifada named Troy Waldren, the automatic facilitated this handicapped driver being able to race it.  I'm not sure why it was made with an automatic back in the day.
There was a history of the Challenger and cuda Trans Am racing history in the "All American Racer" magazine put out by the late Special Interest Auto Club sometime in the mid 80's.  In the article it said that the #77 car had gone on to race in Grand National events after its Trans Am days were over, and that it had been beat up and redone so often that no one would recognize it. Therefore I was surprised when I started seeing pictures of the restored #77 car racing at vintage events a few years back.
We talked with the owner of the #76 car some at the nats and what he told us didn't agree with what I had read in that article 20+ years ealier.  He said the car had been raced for a number of years with different bodies, and that the chassis was eventually stashed away with the owner unaware what it actually was, other than it was unusually well constructed.  After the chassis was tracked down and purchased, it was restored back to what you see today.
If anyone knows more of the stories behind the #77 and #76 cars as they exist today I hope they will share.
One memory I will take with me forever is back in the mid '80's, Troy Waldren decided to sell his car, complete with trailer and several spare engines, and the asking price was $15,000 IIRC.  I was in college and thinking how this was a once in a lifetime opportunity.  I had no where to keep it, I could have somehow scraped up $15K, but I certainly wouldn't have any money or time to restore it back to its 1970 look, so I never pursued it.  Almost 25 years later I still probably wouldn't have the means to properly care for this car!

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2008 - 02:07:45 AM »
The owner of the #76 is a  :newbie: on the site. http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=48585.0
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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2008 - 03:13:51 PM »
No fan?? How does it cool?  :clueless:

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2008 - 08:03:19 PM »
No fan?? How does it cool?  :clueless:

It's an electric pusher fan on the front of the radiator.  If you look at the last photo, you can see that the radiator is set back from the core support.  What looks like shadows in front is actually the outside of the fan support structure.  Notice how, at the bottom of the left side of the support there's some light shining through, indicating the space in between the fan and the support.
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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2008 - 10:27:27 AM »
On American Muscle Car, they interviewed Sam, he told a story of passing tech one day at the track, and then someone went to leaning on the roof and denting it. The tech guy said boys we have a problem…

Cool stuff I don’t think any or many of the vintage racecars have much original sheet metal on them.
Just a product of racing and wrecking and body mods or change over’s to keep a good chassis running on the track.

thanks for the cool pictures Greg.  :2thumbs:

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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2008 - 04:06:35 PM »
Glad you liked them.  More on this thread, including video links:

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=49508.0
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Re: Need pictures of the Sam Posey T/A
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2009 - 09:03:14 PM »
Just stumbled apon this one! Great pictures!!! Thanks for sharing guys!
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