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Offline noschevys

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70 / 71 440 oil pan
« on: October 06, 2008 - 04:18:50 PM »
Is there a stamped number on the bottom of the oil pan on a 70 / 71 E body 440?  All I can find is the part number listed on any websites.




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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2008 - 04:40:17 PM »
The 440source.com web site has a list, I believe # 402 is found on most factory 383/440 ebodies.
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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2008 - 04:54:07 PM »
 :iagree: That's what I have.
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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2008 - 05:35:49 PM »
402 was the stamp on the bottom of most every b and e body oilpans. BB a bodies would of been different along with c bodies.  Hemi and 6pk engines had a different pan and I have never seen a number stamped in them. I am pulling a 402 pan and pick up off my 6pk engine when I get to feeling better and putting the correct 6 qt pan on it. 

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008 - 07:25:13 AM »
That is what I have, a 70 440 6 pack.  What is the right pan for that engine.  Also, did the 440 use the windage tray?

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008 - 04:40:55 PM »
moparal are you wanting to sell your pan once its off?

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008 - 05:08:27 PM »
moparal are you wanting to sell your pan once its off?

I'm not sure. You would need the special pickup tube to, which I will be pulling off as well. I might could :2thumbs:


(That is what I have, a 70 440 6 pack.  What is the right pan for that engine.  Also, did the 440 use the windage tray?)

The hp 440 did use the windagae tray on all that I have seen on the HP versions.  The 6 quart pan is the one you need.
Roseville mopar parts can sell you one. Dave is a member here.  Look in the business section or just pm him in any post

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008 - 08:05:19 PM »
thanks moparal, just lookin for a pan thought i'd ask

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008 - 02:36:37 PM »
thanks moparal, just lookin for a pan thought i'd ask

I just bought a mopar performance windage tray, gaskets, and all new oil pan bolts last night.  So I now have a new 6qt correct pan for the 6pk a new windage tray, oil pick, and new bolts.  Shoot me a price for the whole 402 package I have on my car now and we will take it from there.

402 pan, pick up tube, windage tray. It is all original from a 440 magnum 70 model

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008 - 05:49:23 PM »
hey moparal, not even sure what to offer, i'm not concerned with factory appearance and what not, just need a pan that works. PM me with what you think you'd let it go for. Thanks! -Matt

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2008 - 08:53:52 PM »
The correct pan for any bigblock HP engine is a 6-quart unit with a surge baffle over the sump at both the front and the rear. Without crawling under my car to look, I believe that mine was marked "402". The windage tray was also specified for all HP engines, and from personal experience, and stories from others that have broken open stock engines, the windage tray occasionally did NOT make it into the engine it was supposed to be in. I have also seen 402 oil pans without the rear surge baffle, and unmarked 6-quart pans. The real determinator of correctness for a pan is in its original installation- some would be correct with the "wrong" pan, as that was what the factory installed. I currently have to modify my pan to provide an additional 2 quarts of sump capacity- the available "circle track" pans do not have enough volume. What I really need is an old circle-track pan for a Hemi, but I am not in the mood to hunt down and purchase hen's teeth made of unobtainium.

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2008 - 11:28:37 PM »
The 402 pans are not 6qt

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2008 - 08:08:51 PM »
My pan might be marked "403". Like I said, it's been a while since I crawled under to look. I know for a fact, however, that my pan is a 6-quart sump. If I get a chance to look, I will post the number I find.

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2008 - 08:57:56 PM »
Ok, mines a 402. Most every hp engine in 69/70/71 b and e body was a 402. I never heard of a 403 pan before. Maybe that is an original hemi pan with a number set punched in it.  I know the 402's are not 6qt. I'd like to see your pan. Did the k member have a skid plate protecting the pan?

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Re: 70 / 71 440 oil pan
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2008 - 08:47:13 PM »
The 1970 Superbee that my 383 came from, was as bone-stock as it could be. It was still the correct shade of Street Hemi Orange, too. No skidplate on the K-member, but I was surprised to find a surge baffle both fore and aft of the sump. The pickup tube was the stock, 3/8" NPT unit, too. As soon as I can get under my car to look, I WILL post the number stamped into the bottom of the pan. Many of the books I checked back in 1987 (when I first tore down the engine) said that this was the wrong pan for a wedge HP engine. The same sources (save one), also stated that the only camshaft installed in the HP wedges was the one currently listed as the "resto" cam for them, with 268/284 duration. My camshaft (oe Chrysler part number, too!) was a 276/292 unit, as listed in a couple of books, and in a specification manual I used for checking the cam against the stock specs by, part number, from the manufacturer. This same manual listed camshafts from all American carmakers, and I feel it was a trustworthy source. I just wish that I had kept the camshaft now, because there has been some dispute over the correct cam for a 383HP engine.