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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2008 - 01:45:11 AM »
Mine came out to 11.69 and it runs on Sunoco 94 without pinging.  :2thumbs:
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2008 - 01:49:45 AM »
Good to know, I know some of the new stuff runs up to 12 to 1 on pump gas, corvette stuff I think. 

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2008 - 01:55:50 AM »
Yes, but those are also computer controlled (and designed!) engines with multi-valve technology etc., etc. Now if you're running fuel injection with computer controlled ignition etc you might be able to get a little more...

Boy I wish I could get 94 octane stuff at the pump! Best I can do in CA is 91, and I doubt its as good as 91 anywhere else...

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2008 - 02:08:57 AM »
Having a healthy cam, a good ignition and a properly calibrated carb helps. The SB Mopar is also blessed with a very good spark plug location. You'll notice the LS GM motors adoped it.
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2008 - 05:04:28 PM »
 I've been looking pretty hard at some of the newer stuff megasquirt has been doing, and most likely will be going fuel injected with computer controlled timing.

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008 - 02:13:10 AM »
Check SDSEFI.com , Have built a great system with their puter

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2008 - 12:37:27 PM »
Bigfoot, I think .040 is ok. I typically run tighter. Closer to .030. but if that rolelr is going it, I dont think you'll have issues running pump fuel. Even less issues with EFI, sequential injection, and ignition control. I don't know if MS or the one Neil mentionned has cylinder to cylinder timing control. But if you can get it, it could also help with squeezing outt eh most from the cheapest gas.

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2008 - 06:11:11 PM »
Whats a quench? Prolly a stupid question
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2008 - 06:16:03 PM »
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2008 - 06:29:05 PM »
Wow, I never thought about that. But how do you utilize this? Do you change gaskets or what? I think I need to read more about this.
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2008 - 06:37:54 PM »
No, it's designed into the engine when you're planning your build.
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2008 - 07:33:07 PM »
Having a quench area in the combustion chamber is a wonderful thing. The 426 Hemi didn't have one, and it had issues at low speed and at low flow rates because of it. The optimum quench area is going to force the intake charge across the chamber in a chaotic fashion, causing turbulence and better burning. It also has the added effect of cooling hot spots and controlling detonation. Most engineering studies have determined that .020" is best, but most engines do well with about .040" of clearance in the quench area. Remember that the smaller the vertical space in your quench area, the more forcefully the mix will be squeezed out. High compression domes in the pistons will negatively impact the quench flow, and some builders will actually carve a notch or groove into the dome, in order to keep some of this very positive effect alive. I have noticed no issues in my 10.75:1 383, but tuning and piston construction may also be factors. I managed to get this engine to live on pump premium gasoline (91 octane at this altitude), but more timing and more power were available to me with more octane available. E-85 has been very easy to work with in this engine, and the cooler burn, higher octane (105-110), and high-detergent qualities of the ethanol fuel are wonderful benefits. Rather than fight with the tune, and accepting the level of performance it allowed, I can tune for power, with little fear of hurting the engine with this fuel. I gained 20 BHP, and 2 MPG by switching to ethanol.

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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2008 - 12:11:56 AM »
You mean pure ethanol or E85?
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2008 - 12:19:50 AM »
You actually gained fuel economy with E85? Most of what I have read says you should loose about a third of the fuel economy.
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Re: 340 cam pick, again...
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2008 - 12:21:36 PM »
im sorry, is it just me or with the eddy heads, that compression ratio and the general size cams your looking at I think you'd make well OVER 400hp. Im thinking more like 450ish?  Am I wrong?
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