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Offline Topcat

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TC's Hemi Resto
« on: November 04, 2008 - 05:24:59 PM »
I took my Hemi down to the machine shop today and dropped it off.  :wave:
 
The machinst, He couldn't believe whoever had built it what they did. Bored 60 over very unevenly done on a few cylinders, hyper utectic pistons instead of forged, no distributor bushing.
Heads look fine...so far.

He said now I look like I may need a special set of pistons made because of the innaccurate bore. We'll see once he digs further in on it.

The pistons are KB not Kieth Black. Never heard of KB before.  :dunno:
Block is getting hot tanked then magna fluxed for starters. After that, we sit down and do the game plan on what to do on it. 2 week lead time before they get to it. 40 engines back logged right now before they get to mine.

Carbs are getting sent out to Scott Harms this week.
-Mike
« Last Edit: July 13, 2010 - 09:49:48 PM by Topcat »
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008 - 05:29:56 PM »
Good luck with it TC.    :thumbsup:  Keep us posted as you move forward....   :working:    :cheers:   
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008 - 05:59:17 PM »
I don`t know what to say , I see this All the time , we take apart engine with 50 miles on them that are screwed from bad assy & machining most of the engine I see I get called to fix After paying someone else to built it then I have to give them the bad news that the whole engine needs rebuilding yet again . I did one this spring I assumed was just a ring problem with a new engine using a lot of oil , nope 4 pistons were installed int he wrong holes , so 4 bent valves , the block was honed too large so we had to replace the block , the pistons were rocking in the bores , piston ring gaps were lined up too , wrong valve springs were instalkled on Indy heads damaging both the heads & reatiners , numerous problems all costly to fix ... luckily he had Only paid over $6000 for machining & assy , he had already purchased most of the parts

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008 - 09:32:37 PM »

The pistons are KB not Kieth Black. Never heard of KB before.  :dunno:
-Mike

I thought KB pistons WERE Keith Black pistons! :clueless:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008 - 02:10:55 AM »
 :iagree:
 as far as I know

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008 - 05:53:32 AM »
I know this isnt one of those common pratices but cant you just bore out the cylinders .065 and buy a better set of pistons?  I know this is the most economic opition but might be AN opition.

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008 - 05:57:48 AM »
I thought KB pistons WERE Keith Black pistons! :clueless:
KB are Keith Black........ have not heard any different either :dunno:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008 - 06:06:26 AM »


Keep us posted TC, could be worse I guess, at least it's getting the proper treatment now. I agree, I have always thought KB = Keith Black. Dad's strip down oin the 340 worked out to be one hell of an engine, we were lucky, so many aren't. How far can you bore a 426? Like when does the wall thickness/safety become an issue?
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008 - 09:34:09 AM »
KB are Keith Black........ have not heard any different either :dunno:


Read the company history. Apparently, they're not Kieth Black.

http://kb-silvolite.com/index2.php
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008 - 09:36:08 AM »
I know this isnt one of those common pratices but cant you just bore out the cylinders .065 and buy a better set of pistons?  I know this is the most economic opition but might be AN opition.

Don

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008 - 09:43:03 AM »
Hey TC,

Just had a look and i really thought these were Keith Black brand for all these years :2thumbs: well there ya go :clapping:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008 - 10:12:03 AM »
Then what the heck does KB stand for?  :eek7:  Are they trying to get people to ASSUME that they are Keith Black made? (which seems to have worked!)  :dunno:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008 - 10:26:13 AM »
I am not sure what is going on, as i have seen the sil-o-lite logo on Keith Black piston boxes, sure of it.  And everywhere you look on e-bay the KB logo is affiliated with Keith Black........... may need more investigation, or someone in America local could ring and get the low down straight from the horses mouth, so to speak :2thumbs:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008 - 03:03:39 PM »
I suspect Kieth Black Inc. outsourced the production of the pistons to a previous no name company; then threw some $ at them with a name change added on.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008 - 05:54:25 PM »
I think Keith Black designed the pistons and Silv-o-lite manufactures them. Silvolite has been around a long long long time (since the 20's maybe?) and are hardly a no-name company.
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