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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008 - 06:31:06 PM »
Unfortunately , allot of us are at the mercy of whomever we take an engint to (to get rebuilt) I have been involved in a late model stock car program here for years and the HORROR stories I hear at times...  :faint: From things being done poorly (machineing) to paying for things you dont get to ending up with mis matched parts on and on and on.... I don't know how some of these places can stay in business.  :clueless:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2008 - 09:37:43 PM »
I spoke to Angie today at M.E.W.

She said it's in the hot tank, all bearings removed. She said It may come down to 2 choices. Either new custom pistons past .060 or sleeves.

She said once it's been sonic checked, (next week est.) they'll be able to determine which way to go and what their recommendation is.

If I do get it sleeved, will I be able to just go with 1 or 2 if thats all I need? Or will I have to get the whole block sleeved?

Scott Harms e-mailed me that my carbs are OK for re build. That took a load off my mind. One was pretty crusty and looking doubtful.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2008 - 09:48:24 PM »
Thought I'd mention I saw the booth for KB/silvolite at SEMA in Vegas.... Didn't see ANYTHING referng to Keith Black!


TC , hope things go ok! 
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2008 - 10:21:20 PM »
If the sleeves are installed properly,they are fine,one cylinder is OK too. I had a 440 that Hughes Engines put a sleeve in one cylinder and you could not tell which one it was till he pointed it out!  :2thumbs:
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2008 - 12:56:04 AM »
depends what is wrong to resleeve 8 holes is excessive but at that point you could pick your bore & those piston I have would be useful

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2008 - 01:03:30 AM »
depends what is wrong to resleeve 8 holes is excessive but at that point you could pick your bore & those piston I have would be useful

Thanks for the answers. I'll keep them in mind once I hear soon what they say.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2008 - 02:01:54 PM »
depends what is wrong to resleeve 8 holes is excessive but at that point you could pick your bore & those piston I have would be useful


:iagree:

How much will 8 sleeves cost against just buying a new block? I'd seriously consider getting a good verifiable core block or a new block if I had to install 8 sleeves if the cost was anything over 50% of a good block and machining.

I'm curious to see what you do, keep us posted.

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008 - 02:52:04 PM »
A new block is probably 3k or more, then you would still need to have the machining finished or verified. Are there that many stock hemi blocks out there? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think they are that plentiful that you could just "go get one". The labor operation to install a sleeve is pretty minimal.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008 - 03:30:20 PM »
A new block is probably 3k or more, then you would still need to have the machining finished or verified. Are there that many stock hemi blocks out there? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think they are that plentiful that you could just "go get one". The labor operation to install a sleeve is pretty minimal.

I've seen blocks available for around the number you stated. They are not common, but they are out there. You could go the new block route, I don't know their availablility or cost. Never had a block sleeved, so i have no idea what that costs. Just thought i'd throw that out there as an option. I think I'd rather go that way than a sleeved block if the $$ diff was not too steep, especially when you are talking about 8 sleeves.

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2008 - 03:34:02 PM »
Normally I would say to replace the block if it requires all 8 cylinders sleeved, but in the case of a hemi I would think it would be cheaper (considerably) to resleeve than replace.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2008 - 07:16:04 PM »
If it requires re sleeving it'll be my only option. I need to try to salvage this 71 block. 393 made.
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2008 - 07:17:52 PM »
If it requires re sleeving it'll be my only option. I need to try to salvage this 71 block. 393 made.

Got ya...if you are concerned about casting/build dates, then it's the way to go without question.

Good luck.

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2008 - 03:06:11 AM »
hopefully the sonic check is good and you can go the custom piston route
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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2008 - 04:45:11 AM »
If it requires re sleeving it'll be my only option. I need to try to salvage this 71 block. 393 made.

 I hear ya on that , save the 71 block :bigshades:..........  If that were mine I would sleeve all 8 back to standard bore and be one  happy Moparite  :burnout: :burnout:.............   60 over and beyond is not good imop,,,, thin walls  lead to hot running engines, weaker blocks .

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Re: Prior rebuild that was done to my Hemi
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2008 - 06:56:13 AM »
  Sleeving is not a problem done properly, I restored a 1926 1/2 dodge brothers tourer a few years back and when the machinist went to bore the motor they went through into the water jacket ( when we checked the block it could have had a 1/4" overbore) in one spot. because of the bore size and length of the stroke they ended up putting 2 sleeves in the one hole, one on top of the other. the join was at the bottom where the skirt of the piston was. Motor fired up perfectly and never used oil or water.   :2thumbs:
  The fraud motor company used sleeves on new 6 cylinder motors from the factory. Somebody was putting the wrong bolt in the water pump and split No. 1 bore, it was common, I worked for the fraud motor company for 6 years and saw plenty.   :bigsmile:
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