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Offline Mike70

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2008 - 03:44:34 PM »
Thanks for the photos and info. I'm learning.....
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2008 - 05:41:15 PM »
Actually, I'd say torque boxes add more support than sub frame connectors. Reason being that the torque boxes tie all the subframe structure into the rocker panel, which is a very large, boxed structure that runs the length of the passenger compartment. This creates a very rigid perimeter frame that ties together all the main structural components of the uni-body, unlike a sub-frame connector that supports only the sheetmetal structure of the floor pan to the front and rear frame rails. In a number of my race cars we bypassed traditional sub frame connectors altogether and have gone with a X brace diagonally tying together the torque boxes under the floor pan.

Together, however, they are a unbeatable combination.

Converts already have the boxes... the connectors really add allot!  :grinyes:  :thumbsup:
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2008 - 06:37:35 PM »
Another vote for them. Another test put a jack under the front spring mount. Measure the door to quarter gap before jacking it up and then as you lift the car. You will be surprised even on a rust free car.
With the frame connectors and the boxes you will notice a big difference on how solid the doors sound when you close them, the car is much more rigid.
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2008 - 06:45:14 PM »
Can someone post a pic of where these go? I'm conufsed and I don't know alot of car terminology yet.
Kevin

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2008 - 06:47:33 PM »
I've got sub-frame connectors and I've still got the cracks. :swear:
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2008 - 06:52:12 PM »
Here ya go.
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2008 - 06:54:19 PM »
Cool! Thanks man!
Kevin

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2008 - 04:14:28 AM »
WOW - NICE WORK FARMBOY!!!!

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2008 - 06:07:57 AM »
  If your car is going to be a trailer queen the answer is NO, if you intend to drive and enjoy your car on the road or track then YES, a small part and price for a longer less stressed car.   :bigsmile:
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2008 - 06:30:44 AM »
 Anyone have a pic of factory installed torque boxes?  Would like to see how the factory welds look,, when I do put the TB's in I gotta keep the correct police at bay :aarg:.......

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2008 - 06:56:07 AM »
Does anything bolt TO the torque Boxes? it looked like they had threads in them.  :bigshades:
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2008 - 07:11:00 AM »
  some one correct me if wrong ,,,,,, no threads on TB's just stamped steel welded to body.......

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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2008 - 07:12:53 AM »
Oh, maybe thats the leaf spring perch........ I cant tell whats there and whats not in that beauftiful picture of Daves car in primer......  :clapping:
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2008 - 08:08:43 AM »
Sorry for the confusion, the pictures in gray primer are from a 1971 six pack Cuda we are working on now and are factory welds.
The painted picture is of course my car.
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Re: Do i really need Torque boxes and Car frame connectors?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2008 - 08:15:39 AM »
Here are some more for the welds.
This is on the 71 Cuda.440 +6 four speed Dana
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