i sure have seen that,,,might have to help with body work on it as a matter of fact lol. I borrowed a set of 2nd gen ring brothers hinges for another car today, and not going to work! they need way too much room, and there would have to be a huge pocket in the firewall for them, so on to plan b...once i figure it out! If the hinges cant be behind those panels, thats no big deal, im totally ok with having everything exposed...because after all, the car does need hood hinges, so to me its not a big deal if everyting isnt covered up, just want to make it look nice! What car is that in the first picture? it looks really good. thanks for the help...it helps a lot!