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Offline hemidude426ci

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White interior
« on: November 20, 2008 - 02:18:24 PM »
Hey guys, anyone want to swap out their 1970 white interior for some black interior? If not, where can I get all the parts I need to convert my car from black to white interior?
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Re: White interior
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2008 - 05:49:42 PM »
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Re: White interior
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008 - 05:54:11 PM »
Do you want show quality stuff, or driver stuff? The reason why I ask is because the repop plastic panels the grain pattern is off. For me I can spot it 15 feet away and it's not good enough for my cars. But for many they are close enough.
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Re: White interior
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2008 - 06:24:21 PM »
If your original stuff is in good shape and is not called for already, let me know.   :wave:

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Re: White interior
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2008 - 06:44:49 PM »
There is NO way you will ever find white door/back panels in decent shape. White always took the worst of it from the sun. I suggest you use SEM dye on your black panels to make them white if they aren't cracked or chaulky. The aftermarket panels aren't like the originals. 


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Re: White interior
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2008 - 06:57:25 PM »
I keep hearing that the repop door panels have incorrect grain pattern. Why would someone go to the trouble of repopping something and then getting the details so horribly wrong like the attachment points and the grain pattern? It seems like a big waste of time to do all that and then get something critical like the original look of the part wrong   :clueless:  I would really love to buy repop white interior pieces myself but not if they are going to make people crap on all the work I will have in my car because they dont look right.
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Re: White interior
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2008 - 09:57:34 PM »
they also dont fit worth a flying crap.
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Re: White interior
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008 - 12:45:38 AM »
I keep hearing that the repop door panels have incorrect grain pattern. Why would someone go to the trouble of repopping something and then getting the details so horribly wrong like the attachment points and the grain pattern? It seems like a big waste of time to do all that and then get something critical like the original look of the part wrong   :clueless:  I would really love to buy repop white interior pieces myself but not if they are going to make people crap on all the work I will have in my car because they dont look right.

Too expensive to get it right, and there's no competition so the bad panels only have to compete against very pricey originals.

I'm in the same boat; I have one minty white door panel I picked up 20 years ago, and the four original dead (ashes to ashes, plastic to dust) ones; I'm definitely staying with the white (H6XW black and white) interior but it will be hard to afford.


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Re: White interior
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008 - 01:13:06 AM »
While at SEMA I talked to them about the reasoning for the difference in the pattern and the cost to get it right. The reason for the grain being off it because the new repops are vacuum formed where the originals were injection molded. Chrysler of course destroyed the original molds at some point. So I asked him if you had a NOS set of panels (or a set in excellent condition) could a mold be pulled from them and he told me it could. The cost for the molds are $15,000 per panel. So yes it is expensive, however if you make the investment and the result is a quality reproduction then people would buy it and I don't think it would take long to get a return on that investment and then show a profit. But those repops imo are crap and if you look at the back of them they look cheap. I won't ever put them in one of my cars.
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Re: White interior
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2008 - 01:42:01 PM »
Wow I'm going to sound really ignorant here, but 1) what exactly is SEM dye, and 2) will it really be able to make my black panels white?
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Re: White interior
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008 - 02:31:37 PM »
SEM dye is a high quality plastic dye that impregnatest the plastic. It works really well but if scratch it the black will stick out like a sore thumb. I have dyed yellow panels black and it works, but once scratched it really sticks out.
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Re: White interior
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008 - 03:10:57 PM »
How much does it cost? where can I buy it? and is there any special prep I can do to reduce the occurrence of scratches showing?   As always, thanks a lot for all the info guys, I couldn't build my car into my dream 'Cuda without all your help!
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Re: White interior
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008 - 05:44:49 PM »
You knew it was coming...

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Re: White interior
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008 - 08:04:34 PM »
I like it! SO will it work well on my black panels? Also can I dye my headliner as well???
1970 FC7 440-6 'Cuda 4spd  Track Pack N96

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1970 Superbee 440 6pack 4 spd
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Re: White interior
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008 - 09:45:32 PM »
While at SEMA I talked to them about the reasoning for the difference in the pattern and the cost to get it right. The reason for the grain being off it because the new repops are vacuum formed where the originals were injection molded. Chrysler of course destroyed the original molds at some point. So I asked him if you had a NOS set of panels (or a set in excellent condition) could a mold be pulled from them and he told me it could. The cost for the molds are $15,000 per panel. So yes it is expensive, however if you make the investment and the result is a quality reproduction then people would buy it and I don't think it would take long to get a return on that investment and then show a profit. But those repops imo are crap and if you look at the back of them they look cheap. I won't ever put them in one of my cars.

Looks like you and I were there at SEMA and talking to Dennis (owner of Palco) about the same issues....
I also asked his if the issue about how they fit has been addressed, he said that 6 or 7 months ago he had a customer/friend take his E body front door panels and try to mount them. When the friend start having issues of not quite right, he began measuring the correct locations and the wrong locations on the panels and gave the owner of Palco the findings. The owner said that they went and had the adjustments or corrections done to the way they are made and he has had NO complaints since then, is this true or a ploy, heck if I know but I can say one thing for sure. I havn't sold a set of Palco panels for an E Body in a real long time because of the issues we all know about, but now I may have to buy a set to see if they are fixed or flushed....  As far as the grain goes, I agree with 72hemi, they are easy to spot and I am not to sure that anyone will come out with anything better then these for a while. If I had a numbers show car I would be looking for a used set, luckily the ones in my car are real good........

Question for anyone, Has anyone bought a set of E body panels in the last 4-5 months, and if you did, Did they fit or did you struggle to get them to fit?????????