Wiper Switch

[VTMopar]

will a variable (3) speed wiper switch on a 2 speed wiper?     I'm planning on converting my dash to rallye and the rallye switch bezel I found has a very nice 3 speed (I also think it is variable) switch -- will it work on my existing (non-rallye) wiring & related 2 speed wiper?

Thanks
VT MOPAR

[Chryco Psycho]

Basically no but the 2 speed swith will bolt into the Rallye bezel

[bb71challenger]

I will trade you a 2 speed switch and even add a little money in for your 3 speed switch? PM me if you are interested in one. I have been looking for a 3 speed switch for a while.

[moparmaniac59]

I had that problem with my '70 Cuda. I had a 3 speed wiper motor and a 2 speed switch. It would never work right. I could still buy a factory 2 speed switch from the Chrysler dealer parts counter, but not the three speed switch. I tried the junk yards and never could get a 3 speed switch. I ended up using a 2 speed motor. Didn't have the internet back then. Hope you have better luck!!!



                                                             Matt B.

[VTMopar]

bb71Challenger -- let me think on this for a bit.    I was also considering upgrading to a variable wiper motor -- but I assume this might mean more wiring isues.    I'm new at this game of wiring .....       

I actually have two variable speed switches, one is "frozen" and the knob end broken -- but the one in this bezel looks and seems to work like new..... (although untested)    Are these difficult to repair?  (Slotts?)   

VT MOPAR

[Slotts]

There seems to be a lot of questions when it comes to E body wiper switches.

Here is a picture of the four types that were used from left to right:

Two speed 70 - 72
Variable speed 70 - 72
Two speed 73 - 74
Three speed 73 - 74

The variable speed switches had two connectors attached, one for the wiper motor and one for the washer motor (90 degree angle two blade connector)

Hope that helps.

Slotts

[VTMopar]

Slotts:   Thanks.   The one is definetely the Variable (even has the little red "25" label).    Not sure about the other one - will look tomorrow.     On another note, someone recommended that I ask you about possibly having speedo parts ?    My 1970 rallye speedometer is missing part of the "reset" mechanism -- where the push rod goes in and "flicks" the gear that resets the odometer to zero.   Also, I'm looking for a clock cable (I realize they sell repops....)

Thanks for any thoughts...

VT MOPAR

[VTMopar]

Slotts:   The 2nd switch is the 73/74 3 speed -- it is the one that is "frozen" and the switch end broken off.   Is this worth repairing? 

VT MOPAR

[FY1Cuda]

I've pulled one of the 70-1 variable switches (2nd in Slott's lineup) apart and they're kind of tricky.  If the resistor part is burnt up, they're pretty much landfill.  The frozen shaft might have to do with a little gizmo inside that rotates and reverses the circuit for parking the wipers.  With a little patience, you might be able to get that working again, but if the shaft is broken off, I think it is hopeless.

[Slotts]

A 73 - 74 three speed switch that has a broken shaft, it is probably not worth repairing.

I will have to check the clock and speedo parts and will send you a PM.

Thanks for asking.

Slotts

[hemiken]

There seems to be a lot of questions when it comes to E body wiper switches.

Here is a picture of the four types that were used from left to right:

Two speed 70 - 72
Variable speed 70 - 72
Two speed 73 - 74
Three speed 73 - 74

The variable speed switches had two connectors attached, one for the wiper motor and one for the washer motor (90 degree angle two blade connector)

Hope that helps.

Slotts

Hi Slotts,

Would you be able to doctor the picture so you have each part marked what it is in the actual picture please.  I would like to save this for reference sake.

Thanks

[Slotts]

Hey Kenny,

Ok, I "doctored" the picture for you. I also included a page from a Challenger 72 options list that shows the two types of wiper options.
Somewhere in the 72 production, there was a crossover to the three speed switch. I have seen date coded switch plates that had variables and three speeds. I called the variable a 70 - 72 because of this documentation. You know the line... Specifications subject to change without notice.

Hope that helps.

Slotts

[wally426ci]

I don't want to mess with anyone, but I had to put a 2 speed motor in my "Variable Speed Switched" car until I found a replacement.

It worked, but it was kooky. You would turn it on and the highest speed was first. And it wouldnt settle correctly..... you had to time when you turned them off. So i guess the short answer is actually yes, but its not fun. 

[VTMopar]

To clarify with a few specific questions:     
- Were there 2 types of wiper motors - 2 speed and 3 speed? 
- Is the "Variable speed" the same as a 3 speed?   (or were there 3 wiper motors?)
- On my '70 challenger with an existing 2 speed set-up - IF I were to go to a 3 speed motor -- is there any difference with the linkage?   
- Anything else I need to consider (I assume I will not worry about the withshield washer and stay with the foot pump).

Sorry to be so specific -- but just want to be sure I get this right.   
Thanks again for all the info/advice - and Slotts if you happen to find a clock cable or that part for the speedo -- please let me know!   

Vt MOPAR

[MEK-Dangerfield]

To clarify with a few specific questions:     
- Were there 2 types of wiper motors - 2 speed and 3 speed? 
- Is the "Variable speed" the same as a 3 speed?   (or were there 3 wiper motors?)
- On my '70 challenger with an existing 2 speed set-up - IF I were to go to a 3 speed motor -- is there any difference with the linkage?   
- Anything else I need to consider (I assume I will not worry about the withshield washer and stay with the foot pump).

Sorry to be so specific -- but just want to be sure I get this right.   
Thanks again for all the info/advice - and Slotts if you happen to find a clock cable or that part for the speedo -- please let me know!   

Vt MOPAR

-There are two different wiper motors. 2-speed, and in 70-71 a variable speed. This same motor will also work with a 3-speed switch.

-The 3-speed switch was for 72-74 E-bodies.

-I believe the 2 speed and 3-speed wiper linkages are indeed different, but I don't know in which way.

-Do NOT try a 3-speed motor with a 2-speed switch!!



   Mike