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K-member cluelessness
« on: November 26, 2008 - 10:08:19 AM »
Can a small block be bolted onto a big block K-member?  :clueless:

If so, what are the special requirements if any.
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008 - 10:12:59 AM »
Yes they essentually used the same K from the factory , all you need is the correct mount to do this , the later small blocks used the spool mounts , all E bodys  used the sandwhich type

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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008 - 10:18:26 AM »
Yes they essentually used the same K from the factory , all you need is the correct mount to do this , the later small blocks used the spool mounts , all E bodys  used the sandwhich type

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So as I understand ya, I can just go ahead and drop a 440 onto my factory 318 K-member?
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008 - 10:19:46 AM »
YES & Yes  :2thumbs:

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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008 - 10:36:21 AM »
Yes they essentually used the same K from the factory , all you need is the correct mount to do this , the later small blocks used the spool mounts , all E bodys  used the sandwhich type

 :iagree: I've done it twice so far. Dropping 440 6 packs in 318 barracudas, not problems. Just need the correct brackets.
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008 - 04:36:05 PM »
Well why would someone try to sell a big block K-member?  Just to make the car seem like an original big block car?
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008 - 04:44:49 PM »
In general I think it's one of those things where people are trying to get more money for their parts. There are some big block K members that are different and have a skid plate on the bottom of them, and then of course there is the hemi K member which has different mounts.
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008 - 08:57:40 PM »
Well why would someone try to sell a big block K-member?  Just to make the car seem like an original big block car?

Because as PT Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008 - 11:54:07 PM »
the big difference as stated above was the skid plate top protect the deeper oil pan
 there is also a Lot of confusion / misinformation on the need for a different K frame as some years & body styles  do need a different K to install a big block

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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008 - 02:24:49 AM »
Lot of confusion / misinformation on the need for a different K frame as some years & body styles  do need a different K to install a big block

Now we getting somewhere!  Do any of the '70-4 e-bodies need a different K to install a big block?
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008 - 06:29:27 AM »
My 72 cuda had a 340 originally.  It has had a '70 440 in it as well as a '71 383 using the big block mounts.  K frame received it fine.

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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2008 - 06:33:35 AM »
My brothers 73 challenger accepted a 440 with no issue.
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008 - 07:01:22 AM »
Now we getting somewhere!  Do any of the '70-4 e-bodies need a different K to install a big block?
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Yes. The 6 cylinder powered cars have a different K-frame. But as you have already been told the V8 K-frames on E-Body cars will work for any V8.
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Re: K-member cluelessness
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2008 - 10:47:21 AM »
Now we getting somewhere!  Do any of the '70-4 e-bodies need a different K to install a big block?
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no all E bodys will swap
 the 73-up B body used a floating K frame which requires a different K , the A body used to have a specific Big block K as well but we found out the production K from a certain few years is identical & also doesn`t need to be swapped until you get into later 73 & up K frames with spool mounts & now with Schumaker making differnt swap mount kits a lot of engines can mow be swapped onto Kframes that were not possible before

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