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Offline PlumCrazyChris

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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009 - 04:07:10 PM »
Well the momentum slowed down some, my friend got busy at his shop and wasn't able to help out with the panel replacement, but he did fab up some frame connectors for me. 

I did find a paint shop finally.  We had a freak hailstorm in Austin a month or so ago and tied up nearly every shop for 50 miles for several months.  So I found a guy 51 miles away that has done paint jobs for a friend of mine and has his 71 Rt/SE in his shop now.  So he's no stranger to old Mopars, which is nice. 

He agreed to do it at a fair price, about $250 more then the first shop quoted, but he is going to blast it clean instead of using a DA.  He says its the only way to make sure any old rust is gone for good. 

If fact every time I suggested a short cut to doing this or that, he said he'd rather do it like the factory did it and make sure its right the first time, so I'm really happy he's doing the work.  He even came and picked up my car on a Saturday!   Last Saturday to be precise, he said it shouldn't take much more then a month to finish it. 

So now my garage is empty, I can get to work on getting the cam swapped, the motor painted, harness figured out, oil pan installed, etc, etc.....   But at least the project is moving again. 

What do you guys think about motor color?  Old school Orange with Black valve covers, or a more modern all silver or pale gold color to compliment the body color? 



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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009 - 08:09:47 PM »
I've had engines painted black in my race car, but always wend back to a factory orange color for the Cuda and Challengers. It just looks right when I see other people's cars too.  What do you see when you look at other's restored cars?  Do you like what you see when you see an odd color on a block, or do you think it looks odd?
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009 - 09:42:03 PM »
Just curious, what is the guy charging you to paint it?
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009 - 12:07:57 AM »
PM'd ya Gary.

Looks like you do good work.  That must be quite a shop you have there.  I hope to have one like that someday in the near future.

I'm sure you'll sell that Duster soon, it looks very nice.

Chris
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2009 - 08:06:33 AM »
Thanks for the kind words.  It's not much of a shop anymore - had to sell the house with the big ole shop - too much $$$ and I was heading in the wrong direction, fast. Guess I should have waited for a Bailout LOL 

Got you email as well.  Thanks for the info
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2009 - 12:19:13 AM »
I've had engines painted black in my race car, but always wend back to a factory orange color for the Cuda and Challengers. It just looks right when I see other people's cars too.  What do you see when you look at other's restored cars?  Do you like what you see when you see an odd color on a block, or do you think it looks odd?

I kinda like the "Pure Vision" monochromatic look in the engine bay.  Very clean, no hoses or wiring everywhere and limited to one or two colors.  Don't know how clean I can make mine, but I'll do what I can.  I spoke with the painter yesterday about sealing up all the extra holes in the firewall and inner fenders... of course some have to stay, but many will not be used again.   

I'm not really going for a stock look, I've done that.  This is going to be more of a custom type hot rod look I guess.  It may take some time to actually get it to where I want it, because I can't afford all the custom stuff I'd like, but I'll get it close, then fine tune it while I drive the crap out of it.

That being said, I may still end up with a orange block and black wrinke valve covers.

Thanks for the input.

Chris
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2009 - 05:25:29 AM »
sounds great, but it`s about time to post some pics buddy....    :bigsmile:

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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2009 - 05:10:04 PM »
I know I need photos, but I'm not too good at that, but I'll try.

The paint shop came to pick up my car a few weeks ago.  We put it on a trailer and they headed off.  40 minutes later a terrible storm blew in with high winds and hail, it chased them all the way to their shop, but he reported back that they out ran it and had no problems. 

Here we are loading it up.
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2009 - 05:47:01 PM »
I talked to Juan yesterday and he said he had all the metal work done.  He replaced the trunk pans, the dutchman panel, patched the drivers floor, and filled a ton of holes in the firewall, including the bullet hole in the drivers door.   

As clean as my car looked and as old as the paint was, he still found a lot more rust and bondo in it.  I went all over that car with a magnet and never found any indication that there was any bondo in the car at all, so I was shocked.  But he said he cut it all out and welded in new steel where ever he found it and it was looking good.

Unfortunately the shop is an hour and a half from my house, so I've only been up there once. 

All that had been done to that point is he had a guy sand blast some rust areas around the rear window and the guy blasted my 1/4 windows!!!  I couldn't believe it, I had specifically told him to be careful around the 1/4s, because that was the only glass I needed to reuse!@#$%^^&&!!!   Not sure how to far to press it on the windows, he talked about trying to buff it out, but I know that won't work.   I have a friend, the one that referred me to this painter that said he has an extra set he would give me, so it should be ok. 

Juan said the car is all in primer now and needs another skim coat or two and some longboarding to get it straight enough to paint, and he'll be able to drop it off.  It should take another 3-4 weeks due to other work he has going on. 

Thats fine with me, because I've still got a lot of work to do getting my drivetrain ready.   I got my 5.7 to Inertia Motorsports shop, my friend Stu was helping me with the motor, because I have no experience with the new hemi's and he's probably got more then anyone in the industry.  He built the first stroker Gen III hemi's and has his motors power some of the fastest Ram trucks and LX cars in the country. 

I had planned on running it stock, but Stu had some used cams and gave me a stock 6.1 SRT cam (there is no problem re-using roller cams and lifters, etc.) and degree'd it in, advancing quite a bit with an offset bushing so it wouldn't loose any bottom end.   That mans a master on the Bridgeport. 

Anyway, we pull the heads off the junkyard motor I got and found out the short block was toast.  It had some banged up pistons and water/rust in one cylinder too.  I had already repaired a broken valve springs damage to the other head.  It bent a valve and damaged the guide.  So Stu helped me out with those parts and showed me how to install the guide and lap in the new valve.   

So after all this work my shortblock needs rebuilt.  What to do.....   Stu said he just got in some motor cores returned for the strokers he ships out, and maybe there's a good one that I can trade him.  Stu to the rescue!  again.   

So I start swapping parts and Stu says, ya know I've got a better cam for you, try this one.  It's one of his own custom cams, a Spartan, used of course, but in perfect shape.  It will give me much better power all across the curve.   Great, so I install it without a second thought and then ask him, whats the specs on it.  He says its propritary, but its got 214/218 duration and something in the .55x lift.  He says it will put 350-360 HP and 360-370 TQ to the rear wheels!!  Holy crap, I didn't plan on that, this is going to be my daily driver.   He said "just try to keep your foot out of it"  Ya right. 

I also got my Weldtech alum oil pan from Paintshop 101.  Its awesome, and comes with the pickup for $395.  Thats like $50 less then anyone else.  They had it on display, so it was even polished, sweet.  I'll get some pics up of the motor soon.

So thats where I'm at.  Still need to order my harness, I was hoping to somehow reuse the factory harness, but I'm not up to making it work, not nearly enough time available to figure that out.  If anyone knows of someone that makes a conversion harness cheaper then Squires, please clue me in. 





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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2009 - 05:53:53 PM »
Oh ya, I bought my seats today.  They should be here next week sometime.

They are from a Mazda RX-8 and they are sweeeeet.  I'll probably just dye the stock rear seats to match unless I can figure out how to make the rear RX-8 seats work. 

What do you think?
 
The drivers is power and they have flat mounting brackets, so I'll have to fab up some adapter brackets, but they should look good I think.    I didn't want anything with head rests, but wanted the highback.   I thought hard about camaro seats, they have the right shape and recline, but they are too hard to find in tan leather, too expensive too.   

Then I found these and knew they were the ones I wanted.  I hope the scale will be right in the car.....we'll see.

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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2009 - 11:31:23 PM »
those are sweet!!!
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2009 - 09:56:19 AM »
Thanks 7199,
The pictures make them look very pale, but they are a nice light buckskin color.  I really like them. 

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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2009 - 10:01:57 AM »
 :iagree:  Those are nice seats.  Also, the engine sounds like it'll be really sweet.  Don't worry about it being your daily driver, afterall plenty of people are driving SRT-8's daily...
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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Rebuild!!
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2009 - 10:07:01 AM »
Ya I guess your right.  It'll be nice to have the power on tap.  I've never have a car thats "too powerful" yet, so I'm sure I'll be pleased. 


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Re: I Finally started my 70 Challengers Gen III Restomod!!
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2009 - 02:05:43 PM »
Seats look sweet. I know what you mean on having work done and somehow things dont go as planned even after you discussed it.

On another note, I noticed you are a fan of Pure Vision! I watched that Rides episode where they put together the Hammer Roadrunner for Sema. Too cool. I emailed Strope about that rallye dash panel in the X2 Challenger build. He was the one that gave me the idea to strip and polish the bezels and white faced gauges. Turned out awesome on mine.

He is really a cool guy - from the rides episode it looks like he really stayed upbeat; was laughing and smiling the whole time and didnt get stressed even though his Sema deadline was so close. And he plays a pretty mean bass guitar. That guy is living the life!
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