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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2008 - 10:23:05 AM »

If you make say 25 bucks an hr your company actually pays more than dbl. worker comp insurance and other items come in to play

Which explains the huge rise in temp and contractor work. If a company can get the work done they will gladly pay a temp agency to deal with the headache of benefits.
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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2008 - 10:30:13 AM »
temp and contractors have the same issues. Plus, you have to have a million dollar insurance policy to even get into any plant. Temp or contractor. And you can not get away without having wc insurance anywhere in the US .  Now paying 12 to 18 bucks an hr brings all the numbers down. But it is hard to make a living and get ahead taking a wage like that.  Many have to live on 10-18 bucks an hr. Hard to buy a home,car, food, insurance and bills on that pay.  Life is tuff all over for most.   We are a right to work state here where I live.

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2008 - 10:33:28 AM »
Well, they said it was 75 bucks/hour with everything included.  Health care, retirement, PTO, etc.  As compared to non-union toyota workers, its almost double. 

There are tremendous legacy costs to be sure, but the line workers that I spoke with told me that about 3/8 of their pay goes to union dues.  The UAW puts away huge stores of cash; tht's how they can go on strike for long periods and still pay their members enough to pay their bills.


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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2008 - 11:49:08 AM »
  Just be prepared. take all your anger and frustration and direct it where it belongs. yes, the uaw got a great deal for the workers , but it is payola. they got what they got because of  political support.  bottom line is , you guys better get ready to march on washington dc. apparently the government is scared of every group of people except people like us. we get the shaft.  do you know why? because they governmwnt knows we are a bunch of chicken s*^ts. we do nothing but talk. and one other thing we do that no other political group or minority does.   
   we respect the law.  we are law abiding.   and the government knows it. thats why they f&%k us every time they get the chance.      if they thought for one second that we would pull a million musclecar march they wouldnt touch us with a 10 ft. pole.  "THEY SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS THE GREASE"  and if you dont squeak you will need the grease for what the government will do to us. lay down and take it like a bunch of pus***s. or by God for once in your lives take it to the streets.

why do you think they are already talking about raising the fed tax on gas.  thats right , fuel prices get back to a point where we can almost afford it and the first thing  the gov does is start talking about raising taxes on it. 
 
  yes im pissed, im tired of seeing us kicked around.  our mistake is ... we love cars. 
     

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2008 - 11:52:40 AM »
  almost forgot,   dont forget to smile !  :bigsmile:

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2008 - 12:39:42 PM »
The  $75/hr number comes from taking the total amount the Big 3 pay out/ divided by the number of workers currently employed.  A typical line worker makes around $35-$40 an hr, of which close to half of that goes to the union.  In reality, the take home pay for the average Joe (Jane) is probably closer to $15-$20 an hr.  Still not bad, but the problem is with the amount they pay people no longer employed.  The problem has been long building.  What I don't like is how the UAW management is so unwilling to budge in contract negotiations.

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:00:44 PM »
Why do you think why I came over here in Iraq to work because of all the things that were going on in the states.  And that is why I am going to stay another year to make what I can while I can so I can get my Barracuda done and maybe get a new Challenger if they are still making them.  I hope to find out soon what is going on for sure.  I hope they get there ducks in a row soon.  Gordon
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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:10:55 PM »
I agree with jeryst 100%, the UAW needs to get busted.

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:31:40 PM »
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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:49:49 PM »
I hate to say it but the need to go under and file for bankrupsty so the union is busted... yea it'l ripple throught the economy but hey... Ill chip in a buck or 2 weekly out of my check....

Broom pushers aint worth $28hr

2 of my bosses are from GM and they said janitors made more than the managers...  :working:

mek you are a funny idiot  :smilielol:
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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:50:23 PM »
Obama should do to the UAW what Reagan did to the air traffic controllers. Thats the only way to make them competitive.

Not likely to happen.

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:53:27 PM »
Not likely to happen.

Mike

what did he do BTW ???

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:57:08 PM »
what did he do BTW ???

If I remember it right the flight controllers struck and the President forced them back to work under what was their current pay. I dont know if they ended up getting a raise or not though   :dunno:
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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2008 - 01:59:11 PM »
if thats the case I dont see how that will help anything..... the union need busted up  :2cents

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Re: Could Cerberus Just Hand Chrysler's Keys To The UAW?
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2008 - 02:29:03 PM »
what did he do BTW ???

Federal employees are prohibited from striking because of a no-strike clause in the employment contracts.  In 1981 they did anyway and Reagan told them to return to work within 48 hours or face termination.

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