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Offline DodgeFreak

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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2004 - 09:07:15 PM »
the new hemi is a 354 CI puttin out 345 hp at crank  thats  from everything i have read.. And i have also heard that they can only be bored .010 ...dont' know if thats true.  If i was to run an EFI  I would run an EFI 380 crate motor or just a 360 and just get a wiring harness out of a 92 dakota and run the old 833 or what ever behind it..get the MPG of an EFI  and the stregth of an older car..but then you won't have quite the power...but this rout would be easier..just my opinion..and a hemi would be awesome in an ebod..just not what i'm after....
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2004 - 09:21:28 PM »
tear the numbers match engine out to retro fit a 5.7 or

http://www.rodandcustommachines.com/smallblockhemiheads.html

and swap out the heads
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2004 - 04:14:30 PM »
Oh, man, 426/472/528 crate Hemi, 5.7 crate Hemi, small block with Hemi heads...

but I guess I should get her to stop rusting before worrying about an engine transplant.

I test-drove a Hemi Ram pickup recently - the 5.7 pullls a 4800-pound truck real nice. And the roar at WOT, awesome. Kept thinking how sweet it would run in a 3500-pound Cuda.

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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2004 - 06:41:07 PM »
just drop in a prostock 815 @1500hp ;)
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2004 - 07:39:09 PM »
I know everysays 354 C.I. but here is some script take from Allpar, I think the discrepency stems from the fact this is a metric engine, and you cannot get a true reading converting bore and stroke before you have convert CC's to cubic inches.

John Veatch wrote:

"Seeing all the hoopla surrounding the new Hemi and the previous speculation on whether its displacement was going to be either the nostalgic 354 or 383, I am amazed no one has made mention of what is probably the coolest coincidence of all. The actual production engine came in at 345 c.i.d. @ 345 hp, the exact same specs as the '57 DeSoto Adventurer 345/345 Hemi, the first standard engine to make the 1hp/ci mark (albeit the '56 300 optional HP engine had earlier accomplished the feat). Both preceded the much ballyhooed optional 283/283 hp '57 Corvette engine."


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Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless fuel injection
Deep-skirt cast iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps, aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers, 90 degree V-type, liquid cooled.
Compression Ratio: 9.6:1
Revised specifications - note greater power!Specifications are for the engine in the 2500 trucks.

Power (SAE net): 345 bhp (257 kW) @ 5,400 rpm
Torque (SAE Net): 375 lb.-ft. (508 Nom) @ 4,200 rpm

Displacement 345 or 353 cu. in* (5,654 cu. cm)
Bore x stroke 3.92 x 3.58 (99.5 x 90.9)
Valve system Pushrod-operated overhead valves, 16 valves, hydraulic lifters with roller followers
Fuel injection Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
Construction Deep-skirt cast iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps. Aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Max. engine speed 5,800 rpm
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2004 - 07:46:39 AM »
Now i have a question...down at the bottom of your statement JS...it says Displacement. and 345 or 353 cu in. whats that about...???it can't be both...353 cu in. is close to the 354. everyone else was talking about.
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2004 - 12:02:23 PM »
I dimly remember learning the displacement formula as

bore x bore x stroke x .7854 x no. of cylinders

so an 8 cylinder engine with 3.92 in. bore and 3.58 in. stroke is  345.65 cubic inches.

I guess you get the 354 with the dyslexia option group.  ;)
« Last Edit: May 20, 2004 - 12:03:32 PM by 72cuda »
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2004 - 09:28:22 PM »
Never mind putting it my e body.. How about Chrysler putting in a 2-dr Stratus with rear wheel drive.
Now that's a new car I wouldn't mind making a car payment for.......
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2004 - 09:46:30 AM »
JS27 is correct about the new Hemi CI.  I should have calc it out instead of taking their word for it.  The '56 300 was, however, a 354.    The formula (old school) is Pi Rsquare x Stroke X # cyl.  So;  3.92/2 (bore div by 2 for radius in in) = 1.96 X 1.96 = 3.8416 X 3.1417 (Pi) = 12.069154 x 3.58 (stroke in inch) = 345.66 for the new Hemi.  If you calc 5.7 liters x 61 ci, this equals 347.7, which is rounding up slightly from 345. ( a common adv practice)  Either way, it is a pretty potent package, although I am sure they already have mods in place to raise this several times over the next few years to get folks to trade up.  Also, you can count on ci raises too, again for marketing purposes.     Ovmf
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2004 - 10:20:07 AM »

If you're interested in the new Hemi swap, these guys seem to be leading the way:

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/

They just came out with motor mounts for Chevies to swap in the new Hemi!  Is that ironic or what!!
Mopar engine going in a Chevy instead of Chevy engines going in everthing else.

They were involved with one of the Challenger Hemi swap projects. They're currently putting a new Hemi into a '33 Dodge.

They have wiring harnesses and other parts for swaps.

Check it out!

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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2004 - 05:44:38 PM »
So, opinions aside and fogetting the uncertainty about actual CID, who is CURRENTLY putting a 5.7 HEMI in their old Mopar?


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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2004 - 11:59:06 PM »
Im planning to do the swapin my 71 , still waiting on the long block kit from MP(less intake and injection).The PN's out but still no availiblity. I check everyday.I don't need the intake cause I plan on doing a dual throttle body on a custom manifold using a F.A.S.T EFI set up.
 The Magnum is an awesome ride,alot more impressive than the 1500.The 300C pulls real hard. Im told by the guys at the Chrysler training center that a 8.1L 4-6-8 version will be out in 2006 in the new 2 door LX car.Something to think about.  I'll keep you informed of my progress               C-yaaa Vince

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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2004 - 12:24:47 AM »
Hmm.. 2006 might be a more realistic time frame for me to get the engine in since I have nothing more than a shell at this time.  So what is a 4-6-8?  Is that something similar to the reduced displacement of the current 300/Magnum?

It just seems like a really good option for us muscle car types to be able to get the power we want with some more affordable mileage.

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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2004 - 05:53:44 AM »
is the 4-6-8 the cylinder cut out thing ?

8.1 liter in a car thats od, but for a truck that would be great.   I think they need a new car like the old stealth but a dodge ,5.7 liter twin turbo 570hp (the 3.0 has 300-320 hp so 100hp per liter) awd  aws and you could call it something like a Charger or Cuda but those names are new and kind of dumb (jk). call it a Road Runner or Satelite maybe and make sure it avalible in a vert.
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Re:New Hemi
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2004 - 09:34:06 AM »
Peterro,
I'm almost to the stage where you are at. My Cuda should be going to the blast shop in a week or so. I'm not sure if I should pick up the drivetrain sooner or later. I need the motor and tranny to figure out how I'm going to bolt in the thing, but that's a lot of cash to drop when I still have body work to do. On the other hand, I'd hate to do all of the body work, have the paint laid down, then have to start cutting on the trans tunnel and stuff.

Check out this link. This guy cut the tunnel and moved it up several inches to make the trans fit.

http://home.comcast.net/~r.schue/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html