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Offline brads70

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Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« on: February 28, 2009 - 06:51:36 PM »
Hi all,
I'm new to the 8 3/4 stuff I notice people looking for certain case #'s. What's with that? Does it depend on the gear ratio, if it will fit in a cetain case # ? Do they all bolt into any housing?
Thanks Brad
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009 - 07:20:49 PM »
My car had a 489 case and whne I was going to order a new dropout from MRE I was told that the 742 was a stronger unit. I don't know if that's a fact but it sure does look stronger than my original 489.  But yeah both will bolt up to the housing.
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009 - 07:42:37 PM »
http://www.planethoustonamx.com/main/chrysler_8_34_rearends.htm

as far as I know the 489 is the strongest case. check out the above link for more info

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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009 - 08:18:26 PM »
If you don't want to have to fool with the crush sleeve then a 742 case is the way to go. Pinion depth is set with shims instead of the crush sleeve. It has a larger rear pinion bearing than the 489 case. If you have a 489 case, you can get a sleeve kit with shims to replace the crush sleeve for ease of installation. If you have to change the yoke out, it makes it a ton easier!!
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009 - 08:59:17 PM »
I don't have anything now. My car came with the 6cyl rear end, that has to go! car now has 440. I have about 3/4 of the parts to build a 9" Ford that I can use. I'd like to keep it all Mopar if I could. Just feels wrong not using Mopar in a Mopar? I'm just so familiar with 9" stuff and know nothing about 8 3/4's?
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009 - 11:42:13 PM »
the 3 common carriers are 741 with 1 3/8" pinion
742- 1 3/4" pinion
& 489 -1 7/8" pinion
 the 742 is the strongest due to the crush sleeve in the 489 as mentioned
if you are replacing gears the gear set has to match the carrier # or it wont fit , thereis a conversion brg to installl & 742 gear set into a 489 carrier as well
 All carriers bolt into all 8 3/4" housings & all use the same sure grip units & axle spline

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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2009 - 09:51:00 PM »
If I remember correctly, the first hemi super stock drag cars were running 8 3/4 rear differentials.  And later, the hemi automatic cars used the 8 3/4 diff.  It's a plenty strong unit and you can keep it ALL MOPAR :grinno:
The units without the crush sleeve are more liable to retain dimensional accuracy in hard use.  That's what I'm using.  JMO.
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009 - 04:20:55 PM »
the 3 common carriers are 741 with 1 3/8" pinion
742- 1 3/4" pinion
& 489 -1 7/8" pinion
 the 742 is the strongest due to the crush sleeve in the 489 as mentioned
if you are replacing gears the gear set has to match the carrier # or it wont fit , thereis a conversion brg to installl & 742 gear set into a 489 carrier as well
 All carriers bolt into all 8 3/4" housings & all use the same sure grip units & axle spline
So with the conversion bearing you can pretty well mix and match everything?

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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009 - 09:48:05 PM »
nothing from a 741 will fit the 489 but the 742 gears can be installed with shims into the 489 carrier

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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009 - 10:47:43 PM »
there is a conversion brg to install & 742 gear set into a 489 carrier
I did not know that!
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009 - 12:34:46 AM »
 :useless: LOL!!!!
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an old 741...(stamped 1820657)
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Re: Educate me on 8 3/4 case #'s ???
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