I started the first stage of building my 499 today

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Offline Moparal

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I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« on: March 06, 2009 - 12:45:12 AM »
The combo I'm working on.

71 400 block but not a cold weather block, just a 230 number.  I stripped it down bare. Knocked all the freeze plugs out, cleaned up behind them as good as I could, took all the oil galley plugs out, and had it vatted so I could inspect it and pre install the crank to see if there is any interference. I will bottom tap all the holes and wire brush out all the lifter oil galleys along with the complete oil system. I will end up installing all 4 outside pistons at all 4 corners to see the piston to deck height without the rings as to have the block decked to get it close to zero deck or 5 in the hole.


So far my build plans are  499 440 source crank, eagle 6.760 rods, and diamond pistons. I will choose a piston that will get me to around 13  or 13.5-1 comp.

I plan on useing the stealth cnc ported heads they offer for 2k. They claim around 320/238 flow numbers @ around 650 lift. I am useing one of my roller cams I have laying around. Around a .475 lobe lift with 1.5 rockers.

I'm useing my milodon gear drive, and a 10 qt oil pan , 2 inch x 3.5 headers tuned to 42 inch length. Msd crank trigger with a 7al2 box, probably an Indy intake with a 9375 dominator, or a tunnel ram with 2 750 holleys.

4500 converter, with a 456 dana and spool hooked up to 14x32x15 rear tires, along with a ladder bar set up.  3 inch exhaust

I believe this set up should net me close to 625 hp or so. Make a good little street/race car. I have my race car almost done now, so I am not going all out on this.

Sound like a good combo?




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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009 - 12:49:53 AM »
HOly! Sounds like a monster Al....you converting the 4spd over to an Auto? Be easier on that leg of yours.   :2thumbs:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009 - 12:50:48 AM »
Building another car :2thumbs:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009 - 05:16:39 AM »
lies lies lies.... all lies..............  :stirpot:  320 cfm of flow with 13.5 to 1 compression and race gas  -- .475 lobe lift hmmmmmmmm .712 lift solid roller cam 625hHP my bazooomba.....  that thing will set off car alarms in california :lol2: that thing will be over 700hp ... I guess don really will be in last place this year  :aarg:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009 - 07:16:02 AM »
I guess don really will be in last place this year  :aarg:
i guess that all depends on what i get done too. don might wipe the floor with me.

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009 - 09:47:14 AM »
lies lies lies.... all lies..............  :stirpot:  320 cfm of flow with 13.5 to 1 compression and race gas  -- .475 lobe lift hmmmmmmmm .712 lift solid roller cam 625hHP my bazooomba.....  that thing will set off car alarms in california :lol2: that thing will be over 700hp ... I guess don really will be in last place this year  :aarg:

I'm just being conservative Jason :bigsmile:  You are the cause of this to begin with. Like I need another funnel for money. Cudaguy might end up with the engine. I just want to build one.  Did you uses a 440 block or a 400 block on yours?  I've built 400 blocks for other people but never seen the engines run at the track. They claimed 8 sec passes, but I never seen a time slip on them.  I do have a .470 lobe lift roller to. Think I should maybe install that one?  Guess I will dig out my dyno programs. I told a member I would anyways. That way I can test drive my items to determine what might work the best. I think I'm a little down on the converter size to.

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009 - 05:29:50 AM »
well here is a little more motivation...... Im getting there  :cooldancing:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009 - 07:50:30 AM »
maybe you can do initial start up today?  Your car is looking good

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009 - 12:49:48 PM »
That sounds fun, but I think you'rea bit small on the heads..lol. I'd be looking at CNC Little EZs I think. I think the smaller heads will hurt things with that cam choice. In any event, I'm sure you can get at least 450hp for it  :bigsmile:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2009 - 01:17:26 PM »

 I will end up installing all 4 outside pistons at all 4 corners to see the piston to deck height without the rings as to have the block decked to get it close to zero deck or 5 in the hole.
I install the same piston/rod combo in all 4 corners so I don't introduce any length variation by using 4 different combos.
I had my block decked/squared on a cnc mill and it came out within 0.001, so even with feeler gauge pull or other variation it was very good.  I was impressed.

Also... the rod big end will tend to slide sideways on the crank journals as you rotate the crank, this throws off the deck height measurement.  So keep the rod big end thrust face snug against the crank as the piston comes up on tdc.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2009 - 01:24:57 PM by femtnmax »
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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2009 - 10:44:43 PM »
That sounds fun, but I think you'rea bit small on the heads..lol. I'd be looking at CNC Little EZs I think. I think the smaller heads will hurt things with that cam choice. In any event, I'm sure you can get at least 450hp for it  :bigsmile: 

I think he is going bang for the buck on this.  EZ = $$$ 

499 low deck.  I heard that the 400 block is best for the big hp strokers due to the housing for the crank and all that.  This thing is going to be SICK!!! 

Oh yeah what "Plymouth" is this hoss going in?     :poopoke:

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009 - 04:33:44 PM »

You know its got ta go in a dodge don. Plymouth couldn't handle it lol

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Re: I started the first stage of building my 499 today
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009 - 06:00:10 PM »
Sounds SWEET Alan,
and fun too!! We're gonna have to get some of these strokers together (and StRoKer) some place near a track and have a CC.com day at the drags!! Now that would be a BLAST!!!! :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:



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