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Rudy's B5 AAR Cuda resto update !
« on: April 28, 2009 - 11:10:03 PM »
I haven't been on here in a long time! But the car is doing good. I put it aside for a bit so we could get a few others out of the way. We just did some test shots of the organosol, and should be applying it to the car shortly. The drive train will be dropped in, and we are mounting the peddles, dash and column next. I will have lots of updated pictures to come.... here are a few shots I took this week.

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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2009 - 11:20:23 PM »
The dash is about 95% complete... I had Mr. G's restore the black dash parts. (the camera makes the finish look strange) All of the gauges were restored, the speedo was re-screened too. It took me a long time to get the blue dash paint right..what you see in the last photo really doesn't represent what it really looks like..the first two are close. I found the original color under the old dash pad.. it is darker, and almost a greenish blue if you know what I mean... just like when you turn over original B5 plastic parts and they appear new underneath.... metallic too.  Took me a long  time to get the mixture I liked. I will get the code, and company listed this weekend for you blue interior guys.... I know it's not easy....

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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2009 - 11:38:59 PM »
Looking very very good.   :woohoo:  Bet you are glad to get this much done.  I know I will be for sure when it comes time. 
Got a pretty good start on my M46 optioned Barracuda restoration but now it is on hold till I can gather more funds.  Still need a few parts for it.  SIU Graduate 75 AAS Automotive Tech, 94 BS Advanced Tech Studies, 1997 MSED Workforce Education and Development

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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2009 - 11:52:38 PM »
Heck yeah.. it's just over a few years now..(seems longer!). So much has gone into it. The car has NOS full quarters, and trunk floor, it's an all numbers matching 4 speed AAR.  The suspension is finally done, and the car has factory overspray on the undercarriage. I had to start a new topic since the old one was really old.

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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009 - 12:59:13 PM »
wow... nice project. that thing will turn some heads when done  :clapping:  keep up the good work
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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009 - 01:07:46 PM »
The car is looking amazing. In addition to the interior paint mix can you post the brand of exterior paint and mix as well?
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2009 - 02:50:58 PM »
That is looking awesome!!! :cheers:  Very nice progress!!! :2thumbs:
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2009 - 07:18:44 PM »
Wow, I love the colour! Can't wait to see it done :2thumbs:
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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2009 - 07:29:51 PM »


bright blue interior - B5 dash info

PAINT CODES..... ok...

Regarding interior paint... the original blue under my dash pad was darker like I explained earlier. It should not match the exterior color of the Bright Blue/B5. A blue interior will have quite a few different colors going on around the cockpit of the car. (Before anyone starts to argue this point, I have researched this up and down, and got my final words from people such as Galen, and Roger Gibson, etc. I don't know.. I was born in 72, and cant remember what a blue interior looked like back then!) Blue interior is a difficult task in my opinion.... If you look at original Chrysler documents that list the paint codes for 1970, you'll see Exterior Gloss, Interior Gloss, Interior Low Gloss, and SUEDE FINISHES...  The suede finish paint to my knowledge is no longer available..this creates the problem. Chrysler says the glove box, ash tray face, instrument panel, seat hinge covers, etc are painted with this suede finish paint. The color is listed as THUNDER BLUE POLY, #13848.

Now, I went to http://www.tcpglobal.com
They have an amazing paint chip database. Select the make, and year, then the original factory sheets come up:

http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1970-plymouth-pg02.jpg

Now, it was trial and error before I got the color that I went with. I ordered the Thunder Blue Poly listed under 1970 suede colors... I ordered the Acrylic Enamel  #13848, This laid out real light, bright blue.... nowhere near the original. It was also way too glossy. We ended up mixing it with a medium interior flattening agent, and it still was way off. YOU DO NOT WANT 1970 THUNDER BLUE #13848. (if you do, I have a quart sitting on the shelf...haha)

We wondered what the base coat of the exterior bright blue would look like, mixed with the medium interior flattening agent, and no clear coat.... so....

I ordered the exterior code 2019 for 1970, in Acrylic Enamel.
The companies code for this was = AE-TCP2019(C), Acrylic Enamel. The label says= 1969 Plymouth Blue Fire Poly (Bright Blue Poly). (1969 and 1970 both use 2019 code for exterior) We mixed it with the flattening agent (medium), and first laid down a black sealer on the dash. The ended up being the closest thing to the original color. It was the darker, almost the kind of greenish blue I saw on the metal dash. I shot the dash, and plastic dash corners in this, and it looks great! The medium flattening agent made it perfect... duller, no real gloss to it, just perfect. The black sealer also darkened the color more like I wanted.  I put on the dash pad, and the two blues look great next to each other. Not matching, (which they should not) but they go together the way they should.

I will try more pics, but they never show the true blue colors...


EXTERIOR...

The DuPont computer mixed the B5 exterior for my car... look at the pictures of the label for the break down of colors that make up the B5. We also used the new DuPont clear coat... 72500S

Hope this helps somebody out there.... I'll be glad when I restore my convertible with it's black interior!
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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2009 - 07:40:59 PM »
I cant seem to post the paint label pic now due to errors... so stay tuned...  :villagers:

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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2009 - 10:30:17 PM »
Sweet ride and A+ job.  Wish my car had all of the paint work done. 


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Re: B5 AAR Cuda resto update (yes, I'm still alive)
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009 - 12:41:23 AM »
Great looking project and we can't wait to see the pictures when it is completed.


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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009 - 08:43:42 PM »
 :picture: cant wait to see the dash the car look geat
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009 - 10:08:25 PM »
:picture: cant wait to see the dash the car look geat

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I too have a blue interior, although I'm sure that by '72 they were doing something entirely different. And although I'm not nearly that concerned with being original, its cool to see someone do the research and come up with stuff like that. I am interested in that exterior paint info though, the color looks great in the pictures even, and darker than my "B5" car is now. But I'm guessing Maaco painted mine so I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't painted exactly B5.

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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2009 - 09:32:33 AM »
Check out the breakdown of the formula that the DuPont computer mixed.
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