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Offline South of Sydney

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Transmission mount
« on: May 09, 2009 - 04:28:06 AM »
Hi guys & girls

Interesting problem I hope someone can help with. I recently had the engine out of my 70 Challenger for some oil leak maintenance, transmission stayed in the car, anyway I noticed a broken engine mount (lhs) & replaced it before refitting the engine. Anyway test drove the car with no dramas other than a minor exhaust leak.
Next time I took the car out for a run a problem developed. After I fuelled up I was making a slow right turn when all hell broke loose under the car sounded like a demented midget hammering on the floor & or tailshaft.
I initially thought broken axle & pulled over, after a look underneath I slowly geared up & pulled away in a straight line with no noticeable noise, what the? next bump in the road the midget was back big time, I slowly drove home with the midget going from not there at all to tearing the car apart depending on bumps & turns. By the time I got home I was thinking side gears in diff or maybe even broken flex plate or missing torque converter bolts because occasionally it sounded like the converter was trying to escape the bell housing.
Anyway pulled backing plate off diff, nothcing, checked axles , nothing , checked flex plate & bolts all ok. Next stop was transmission mount & what do you know both the bolts that hold the mount to the trans are missing!
Now this is a mystery as I hadn't had any problem for the last 3 years & as I mentioned the gearbox wasn't touched when I pulled the engine, anyhow, fitted a couple of bolts & wished I'd started my investigation there, it would have saved a lot of work, I figured that now that the trans was tied down all my problems would be gone, but alas the first bump & the midget was back, not as bad I think but still there. I'm now thinking maybe there was a spacer or something between the trans & the mount or some such as I have no idea what it looked like before.
If any one has a diagram from the shop manual that shows the mount & trans assembly they can post I can at least see if I'm missing anything. Failing that any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2009 - 05:18:38 AM »
no spacer between the tranny & mount , there were rectangular washers used between the bolt & mount

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009 - 07:19:28 PM »
Thanks for the spacer info Chryco looks like I might have uni joint or diff yoke problems caused by the trans moving around, can't think of anything else.

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009 - 06:09:34 PM »
no spacer between the tranny & mount , there were rectangular washers used between the bolt & mount

Not to hijack, but any idea as to where one could get the rectangular washers?

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009 - 09:32:31 PM »
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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009 - 10:39:47 PM »
http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/part.asp?pid=FD10700&c=0&e=0&cat=1&hid=117AD4667&trk=  :money: :money:


No way, now how am I paying $32 for two rectangle washers!  :roflsmiley:

Anyone have the dimensions? Shouldnt be hard to make these, right?  Just rectangular pieces of metal with holes in the middle...

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2009 - 10:50:53 PM »
Arethe spacers necesary?

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2009 - 11:58:00 PM »

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2009 - 05:02:30 AM »
Got a couple on the way! A good member from this forum had a couple!   :2thumbs:

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2009 - 10:50:47 AM »
Arethe spacers necesary?
Washers will work if needed. I think shadango is just trying to have everything OEM correct. :cheers:
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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2009 - 06:56:54 PM »
Well, not going for 100% accuracy but where I can I am I guess.    :cooldancing:

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2009 - 01:46:49 AM »
Hi all

Back to the original problem that started this thread, after giving up at home & bringing the car into work, we put it up on a hoist & tracked the noise to the diff when the car was turning. Pulled the cover off the diff, still no shrapnell but got a diff expert to have a proprer look & he identified excess movement in both the side & the pinion gears, the pinion shaft retaining pin is moving 10mm so all up we have a lot of slack, hence the noise as the gears fight against each other when meshing incorrectly. Riddle solved, I assumed that I would have seen some evidence of broken teeth but it hadn't got to that point yet, so I got thrown off the track. Anyway I've now got to decide to either fix this diff or build something a bit bigger. 

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2009 - 01:50:59 AM »
MIssed that one , noise while turning should have been the the clue  :banghead:

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Re: Transmission mount
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009 - 02:48:06 PM »
At least you figured it out.  :2thumbs:
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