Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please

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Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« on: May 19, 2009 - 06:29:34 PM »
Help I am getting ready to order my wheels and I need to double check my thoughts.

9 inch wheel up front should I have 6 inch backspace or a 5 inch back space?
I have the alterkation setup in my car. Imincarn82 Robert has 8 wide and 4.5 backspace.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2009 - 07:29:47 PM »
Depends what brakes u runnin'.

Why not get any old wheel, fit it up, and see how big you can go?
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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2009 - 09:29:55 PM »
There is a tool you can buy that bolts on to the wheel students and you can use it to measure you back spacing and how large of wheels you can go with.  I was looking at buying one but i cat find the web site.  Maybe some one here remembers who sells it.
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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009 - 09:58:38 PM »
Depends what brakes u runnin'.

Why not get any old wheel, fit it up, and see how big you can go?

12.? inch roters my test wheels are 8wide with a 6 inch back space I am thinking 9 wide with a 5.5 (I have room for 6 but do I need it?) I want a good look also and not the latemodel look.

There is a tool you can buy that bolts on to the wheel students and you can use it to measure you back spacing and how large of wheels you can go with.  I was looking at buying one but i cat find the web site.  Maybe some one here remembers who sells it.
Otter

I have that tool just dont trust myself with that much money on the line  :eek7: (percys wheelright)

Ps Otter45 do you want to use it?
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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2009 - 12:18:10 AM »
Eastwood makes a cheaper version
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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2009 - 01:26:35 AM »
I think Bill Reilly only recommends 5" of backspacing??   I know if you go to like 6 you might have issues.  These pictures are from when I tried on a buddies stock 2006 Mustang GT 17" Bullitt rim (they have like 6 3/4" of backspacing).  You can see it would hit the control arm.

Anyway, I would think a 9" rim with 5 or 5.5" of backspacing would look fine.  Let me know what you end up with, since I'm a ways away from actually buying rims!

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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2009 - 04:33:48 AM »

Wheel Sizing

Wheel sizing can vary based on rim diameter and model of car, however there are some general guidelines to help you choose wheels.
Overall, the outer tie rod end limits backspacing on 14-16' rims to 3.25" with Wilwood brakes.
17" and larger diameter wheels will clear the tie rod end and allow much wider wheels to be used.

B,E and F-bodies
The B,E, and F-body cars with their generous fenders are far less sensitive and will allow more outside width without issue.
In 14-16" sizes, a 7" rim with 3.25" backspacing is very common, while 17" and bigger wheels will easily allow 8" or 9" widths with 4.5" or 5.5" backspacing.

Obviously, using 17" rims opens the door for many tire widths that otherwise would not fit. There's another benefit not seldom mentioned - scrub radius. With the larger offset rims, scrub radius is reduced substantially, drastically reducing feedback to the driver, steering effort, and steering forces at the spindle, making for a smoother, more comfortable, and more predictable feel. This is a major design parameter with most new cars, and one of the primary reasons, along with increased stability, that new cars have wider suspensions and wheels with lots of backspacing.
Although 18" and bigger rims begin to have that modern car look, 17" rims will still maintain the old "musclecar look" provided care is taken with tires. There are so many tires on the market now for 17" rims, almost any look and style desired is possible. Using 17X8 rims at all four corners, you can achieve an easy "pro-touring look" by using 245/45/17 tires. If the classic Musclecar look is desired, you can run 225/50/17's on the front, and 275/50/17's on the rear - in the tech pages, check out the gearing and tire size calculators to help you convert tire numbers to overall width and diameter.


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Re: Help with wheel fitment and an Alterkation please
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2009 - 09:26:16 PM »
There are two alterkation spindle widths; one for the QA1 coil overs and one for the shockwaves.  Mine is set up for the shockwaves but I am using the QA1's (future growth potential).  The track is 7/8" wider (if I remember correctly) for the air bags.  This plays a part in the fender clearance and wheel offset calculations.  Also centering the tire contact patch as best as possible to the ball joint inclination angle or scrub radius pivot is very important for ease of drivability and predictibility as earlier stated....