Can this be true?

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Offline quapman

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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2009 - 05:35:04 PM »
Hopefully, they will sue what's left of Chrysler, if not bring them up on criminal charges for theft and conspiracy. This just proves again that "free" enterprise is only for the scum at the top with the power and hidden assets.

Sidenote: I bet someone at Chrysler asked Lee Iacocca for help and if he responded at all, it was something like "I saved it once, and YOU put it back in the toilet....YOU fix it". (Just an opinion)  :roflsmiley:

I read where they wanted to spend over $100,000,000 (YES, one hundred million) on advertising during the bankruptcy hearings. Ummmmmm, you're losing money, WHY? DUH. DUH. DUH.
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2009 - 06:16:04 PM »
BLAME BARNEY FRANK AND HIS SIDE KICK NANCY "THE LIAR" PELOSI        we didnt start the fire they did
And don't forget the real star of the show
Barack Hussein Obama
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2009 - 07:16:58 PM »
And don't forget the real star of the show
Barack Hussein Obama

You two are hysterical.  Four months in and you want to blame President Obama.  What, did this country just begin to exist this past January?  Things were splended prior to 2009?  :roflsmiley:

I share with you lost boys what I said on Election Day: "It doesn't matter who becomes our next President, it'll be four plus years of mopping up and dealing with fallout."

Apparently you two don't understand the fundamentals of succession...
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009 - 08:18:48 PM »
You two are hysterical.  Four months in and you want to blame President Obama.  What, did this country just begin to exist this past January?  Things were splended prior to 2009?  :roflsmiley:

I share with you lost boys what I said on Election Day: "It doesn't matter who becomes our next President, it'll be four plus years of mopping up and dealing with fallout."

Apparently you two don't understand the fundamentals of succession...
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Maybe you don't understand that Obama is in bed with the unions and to hE!! with the common worker who is trying to put bread on the table. I have no love lost on the previous Admin for my money they all care about one thing and thats keeping the power. Obama was your hope for change and you got the same dog and pony show.
You got change and now you have no hope.
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009 - 08:51:03 PM »
It's all spelled out in the fine print in the franchise agreement. When he signed on, he just never believed it could come to this. Heck, a year ago, none of us thought it would come to this.

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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2009 - 10:34:04 PM »
 :swear: Ok my 30-second rant please forgive me if I offend you…  :misbehaving:

I hope everyone fires congress during the next election so we can get some new crooks in the house of rip-offs…

Its sad less competition will bring higher prices 35-45 k is already too much for a car I bet in 2 years that will be looking at 50k for a new car.  :screwy:
Isn’t the real money in a dealership with the trade ins and used cars try to buy a car without a trade they won’t hardly deal with ya.  :banghead:

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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2009 - 07:58:02 AM »
I agree, this has to be criminal. These dealers paid for their franchises. Why should a dealer be forced to close because Chrysler can't run their business? Chrysler should be reimbursing the dealers if they want to close them down.
I can't believe they are going to stick these dealers with all those cars. This whole rotten deal is going to put a lot of people to be into dire situations. It is not right!
 I doubt the dealers have an legal recourse, but I hope they sue Chrysler and win. I have been a diehard Chrysler supporter for almost 30 years. I worked as a mechanic at a Dodge dealer for a while. Right now, watching what is happening, I am not a real big fan of Chrysler right now.
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2009 - 08:14:04 AM »
Can someone explain to me so I can understand this issue. How does a dealership, which buys product, adversely effect the car manufacturer?? I dont understand why you would drop a independantly owned company that sells your product??? ??? ???
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2009 - 08:22:06 AM »
I don't understand either.
If the dealer doesn't sell enough cars, eventually he will go out of business. Why not let the dealers keep their franchises? The strong dealers will survive and the weak ones will close.
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2009 - 08:45:11 AM »
:swear: Ok my 30-second rant please forgive me if I offend you…  :misbehaving:

I hope everyone fires congress during the next election so we can get some new crooks in the house of rip-offs…

Its sad less competition will bring higher prices 35-45 k is already too much for a car I bet in 2 years that will be looking at 50k for a new car.  :screwy:
Isn’t the real money in a dealership with the trade ins and used cars try to buy a car without a trade they won’t hardly deal with ya.  :banghead:

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mate try living in oz , a new ford /holden ( chev) 6 cyl sedan is 40k std, the option it up 50k , top of line luxury 6 cyl / v8 sedan 65k plus. you guys have had it good for a long time in the car side of things , and we wont mention our fuel prices either , or the dollar conversion. etc
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2009 - 08:50:27 AM »
Can someone explain to me so I can understand this issue. How does a dealership, which buys product, adversely effect the car manufacturer?? I dont understand why you would drop a independantly owned company that sells your product??? ??? ???

That's what I was asking on the first page, but instead, this thread turned into a political debate...  Isn't it kinda late for that?
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2009 - 09:13:25 AM »
some dealers here that will no longer be under the chrysler umbrella aren't closing, just moving to used car sales
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2009 - 09:15:54 AM »
Dont they just have to sell cars?  I dont care how many you employ, if you arent selling cars then...

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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2009 - 11:31:07 AM »
some dealers here that will no longer be under the chrysler umbrella aren't closing, just moving to used car sales

Yes, used car sales for sure!  A friend of mine was one of Canada's top Chrysler salesmen 10 years ago.  He just up and quit one day, giving up a six figure income, and opened a used car lot.  He and his lot look the part of the stereotypical Used Car Salesman". 

He explained to me though, that he is making many times more money now than he ever did as a new car salesman.  A new car dealership has to take and finance a certain amount of stock from a manufacturer only to make a couple of grand per car.  They have to maintain a service and parts department, do warrantee work, and provide all the stuff necessary to provide a 'pleasant" buying experience!

Used cars on the other hand can be picked up at auction for as little as $500 dollars and after a fast cleanup will sell for $1500.  The sales lot and building can be minimal, service and parts non-existant, stock of cars only what can be handled financially, guarantee is 15 days or 15 miles (whichever is less) and everyone who sets foot on the lot knows what experience they can expect!

Yep, used sales makes $ense.

On a side note, I had always assumed that you could get a better deal on a car that had been on a lot for a long time because the dealer would want to move it to recover his investment.  It turns out that a car that has just arrived can be a better deal because the dealer has very little invested in that car as opposed to the one that he has been financing for months.  Fast turnover = more profit
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Re: Can this be true?
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2009 - 12:03:14 PM »
I still don't understand why Chrysler is closing dealerships.  Let me explain.

I live in the Champaign, IL area.  Champaign has a Chrysler dealership and Danville, IL (35 miles east) has a Chrysler dealership.  Both are closing.  Once both have closed, if I WANT a Chrysler, I have to drive 60-90 miles to have the opportunity to deal for a Chrysler product.

Or, I can buy something else, LOCAL.

If this is their path, consider them gone, dead, done.
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