Author Topic: It's really to bad the people always get the government they deserve? (Read 1252 times)

brads70 · « **on:** May 29, 2009 - 05:45:46 PM »

My father in-law sent me this. Very sad!!!!! More fallout from Obama socialism!

This is a letter that a Melbourne Florida Dodge Dealer wrote to a local newspaper. You should read this. This is more of Obama's change you can believe in!
My name is George C. Joseph. I am the sole owner of Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu, a family owned and operated business in Melbourne, Florida. My family bought and paid for this automobile franchise 35 years ago in 1974. I am the second generation to manage this business.

We currently employ 50+ people and before the economic slowdown we employed over 70 local people. We are active in the community and the local chamber of commerce. We deal with several dozen local vendors on a day to day basis and many more during a month. All depend on our business for part of their livelihood. We are financially strong with great respect in the market place and community. We have strong local presence and stability.

I work every day the store is open, nine to ten hours a day. I know most of our customers and all our employees. Sunshine Dodge is my life.

On Thursday, May 14, 2009 I was notified that my Dodge franchise, that we purchased, will be taken away from my family on June 9, 2009 without compensation and given to another dealer at no cost to them. My new vehicle inventory consists of 125 vehicles with a financed balance of 3 million dollars. This inventory becomes impossible to sell with no factory incentives beyond June 9, 2009. Without the Dodge franchise we can no longer sell a new Dodge as "new," nor will we be able to do any warranty service work. Additionally, my Dodge parts inventory, (approximately $300,000.) is virtually worthless without the ability to perform warranty service. There is no offer from Chrysler to buy back the vehicles or parts inventory.

Our facility was recently totally renovated at Chrysler's insistence, incurring a multi-million dollar debt in the form of a mortgage at Sun Trust Bank.

HOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN THIS HAPPEN?

THIS IS A PRIVATE BUSINESS NOT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY

This is beyond imagination! My business is being stolen from me through NO FAULT OF OUR OWN. We did NOTHING wrong.

This atrocity will most likely force my family into bankruptcy. This will also cause our 50+ employees to be unemployed. How will they provide for their families? This is a total economic disaster.

HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN IN A FREE MARKET ECONOMY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?

I beseech your help, and look forward to your reply. Thank you.

Sincerely, George C. Joseph
President & Owner
Sunshine Dodge-Isuzu

71chally416 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2009 - 06:11:50 PM »

"Obamanomics"

brads70 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2009 - 10:23:41 PM »

I just don't understand how this happens??? Madness!!!

71chally416 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2009 - 11:58:26 PM »

What's happening is a willingness by too many people and most all of the Media to go along with the radical agenda of a President with the thinnest resume in history in the desperate hopes of having it work. You have to go back to JFK to find the last "Great" Democratic President and he's most known for his speaches, cutting taxes, his fling with Marilyn Monroe and getting shot in the head. Liberals are SICK of hearing about the greatness of Ronald Reagan and have the most discombomulated logic to explain away what he did to rescue our country from Carter that led to decades of prosperity.
Did he spend some money? SURE, but look at the results. We have a space station and can shoot missles out of the sky now, and our Military was so strong when Bush Sr took over that after the brief Gulf war he had a 90%+ approval rating. Even Obama would like to have that. Some still believe his way is the best proven way out of a recession, not the total exact opposite as we have now. You can't spent your way to prosperity with temporary jobs building roads and bridges and adding thousands of Federal workers with outrageous benefits. Isn't that what bankrupted California? It's just total insanity.

I'm all for a strong and well equipped Military. I now have a good paying job in a machine shop working for a Military spare parts supplier.

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leithal · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2009 - 12:36:45 AM »

It seems to me that both parties have shifted to the left of the political scale. The Democrats appear to be controlled now by individuals with socialist idealogies and the Republicans are abandoning the conservative philosophy that gave them a contrast to the Dems.

I agree we are getting what we elected. My hope is that we can survive this catastrophe of a president and witness another swing to conservatism similiar to the Carter/Reagan experience. I don't think it will be too long before the public turns on this guy, thereby forcing the media to report on his poor choices. He can only blame Bush for so long. And with all the money he is spending it won't be long before BS like VAT or other taxes are imposed on the "little guy". You can only take so much from the rich...and that's not enough for all of his social engineering plans.

torredcuda · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2009 - 06:29:36 AM »

Enlighten me on how this is Obama`s fault??Obama has been in office for what 5 months and he is now at fault for all the troubles the US car maufacturers are in?If anyhting he is trying to help them avoid total bankruptcy by giving them bailout money so they can hopefully continue to do business thus saving many thousands of jobs.

Bullitt- · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2009 - 07:12:08 AM »

Quote from: torredcuda on May 30, 2009 - 06:29:36 AM

Enlighten me on how this is Obama`s fault??Obama has been in office for what 5 months and he is now at fault for all the troubles the US car maufacturers are in?If anyhting he is trying to help them avoid total bankruptcy by giving them bailout money so they can hopefully continue to do business thus saving many thousands of jobs.

No Brother, the auto manufacturers situation is not President Obama's fault but there is something rotten about the solution I would think most anyone would see.
50+% going to the UAW?!?!? The Dems are unapologetic in their support of the unions which leads me to believe there is more afoot than just saving jobs.
Seems that all administrations are quick to take credit for any good that occurs on their watch while detractors a quick to lay blame. I think we give the Executive branch all to much credit for being effective, the real power is in the Congress where nothing happens w/o their approving vote, so if government is to blame just look at who controls & has controlled those votes. Just my little ole A-WASP view..

leithal · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2009 - 10:02:37 AM »

Quote from: torredcuda on May 30, 2009 - 06:29:36 AM

Enlighten me on how this is Obama`s fault??Obama has been in office for what 5 months and he is now at fault for all the troubles the US car maufacturers are in?If anyhting he is trying to help them avoid total bankruptcy by giving them bailout money so they can hopefully continue to do business thus saving many thousands of jobs.

I haven't heard anyone blame Obama for the auto mess or any other current mess and I listen to everything from Maddow to Limbaugh. What I do hear and believe is that Obamas solutions are socialist in nature and ignore the capitalist system that built this superpower in such a short time. People are insane to think government can fix their problems. We can't even trust them to manage Social Security. We are surrending liberty for a sense of security.

kingtroll · « **Reply #8 on:** May 30, 2009 - 10:45:23 AM »

This is all bad but blaming Obama for this is ridiculous in my opinion. Do you think the prior administration would have saved this dealership, or the jobs lost??? Many of the current problems we have were getting WORSE prior to his (Obama's) arrival. Now can this new administration make things any better only time will tell but to blame Obama to me is crazy. The prior administration has TOTALLY made a mess of this country...IRAQ which could have been handled WAY better, job losses run amok, home loans given to ANYONE without verification, etc...etc... We can't just blame a president for all these problems but give me a break . Just my

right or wrong.

troutstreamnm · « **Reply #9 on:** May 30, 2009 - 11:16:53 AM »

Seven years of prosperity under Bush and then total collaspe of the inverted pyramid of banking, financial, and mortgage schemes that were shared equally by democrats (driving the Freddie and Fanny feeding frenzy) and republicians having no oversight of Wall Street. Unfortunately capitalism left unchecked will always do this to itself. Blaming Bush or Obama is not correct, it's pure greed driven by the politicians AND Wall Street. They just got caught in bed together and EVERYONE is paying for it. Obama's solutions, however, will SCREW all of us again by high inflation, higher taxes, and an extended recovery. Not to mention socialist takecovers of banking, health care, and the auto industries. The foreign policy plunders are just beginning.....I digress

71chally416 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 30, 2009 - 12:13:02 PM »

This "only 5 months" crap is totally bogus because the dems have been in control of both house of Congress since January of 2007 when Obama also assumed his senate seat. If my math is correct that's 2 years and 4 months. If 28 months isn't time enough to take responsibility and stop blaming others for your policy failures, than what is the proper time frame? 3 years? 6 years? a Decade?

grimmey71 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 30, 2009 - 12:43:57 PM »

i can blame Obama, for it is his beliefs that brought us to this. His and his ilks beliefs regarding everything from housing to health care to cars...we have seen how these have worked out.

here is a link regarding the goverments responsabilty for the housing crash(which wallstreet was deeply invested in)

http://www.forbes.com/2008/07/18/fannie-freddie-regulation-oped-cx_yb_0718brook.html

and now as the automakers as fighting for there very lives he does this.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/18/report-obama-to-announce-new-cafe-standards-tomorrow/

free markets dont crash like ann inverted pyramid, only when the goverment thinks that they are smarter than people who have real jobs and dictate our lives and our business do we have problems like this.

theh last cafe standards(under Bush) cost the big three 100 billion dollars http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/cafe_standards_have_helped_put_american_auto-makers_out_of_business/ , now we have even more stringent cafe standards sweet. add to it this http://www.autoblog.com/2008/07/01/automakers-say-new-cafe-standards-will-cost-82-000-jobs/ just something to think about.

JH27N0B · « **Reply #12 on:** May 30, 2009 - 01:47:09 PM »

I'm waiting for an Obama worshiper to explain to me how an this anti-business, high tax nanny state direction that we are currently heading in at warp speed will result in anything positive for the citizens of this country, and not high unemployment, low economic growth and a greatly reduced standard of living for us and our children for generations to come?

Anybody care to educate me? Inquiring minds want to know!

leithal · « **Reply #13 on:** May 30, 2009 - 01:57:13 PM »

Quote from: JH27N0B on May 30, 2009 - 01:47:09 PM

I'm waiting for an Obama worshiper to explain to me how an this anti-business, high tax nanny state direction that we are currently heading in at warp speed will result in anything positive for the citizens of this country, and not high unemployment, low economic growth and a greatly reduced standard of living for us and our children for generations to come?
Anybody care to educate me? Inquiring minds want to know!

This new direction will lead America to similar greatness and eutopian splender experienced by our European cousins. Just shut up and do as "0" instructs

and you too will have "hope and peace".

71chally416 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 30, 2009 - 02:12:00 PM »

Maybe a little history lesson is in order, keeping in mind 6 million people lost jobs in the 12 months ended in April � and that means far fewer dollars from income taxes. Income tax revenue dropped 44% from a year ago.

In each of the last three cuts in marginal tax rates, revenues received by the U.S. Treasury have increased. Coolidge cut tax rates in the 1920s, Kennedy cut marginal tax rates in the 1960s, and Reagan cut them in the 1980s.

Under Coolidge, marginal tax rates were cut from the top rate of 73% to 24%. The economy rewarded this policy by expanding 59% from 1921 to 1929. Revenues received by the federal treasury increased from $719 million in 1921 to more than $1.1 billion 1929. That's a 61% increase (there was zero inflation in this period). Growth averaged more than six percent annually.

Under Kennedy, marginal tax rates were cut from a top rate of 91% to 70%. In real dollar terms, the economy grew by 42%, an average of 5 percent a year from 1961 to 1965. Tax revenue to the U.S. Treasury increased by 62%. Adjusted for inflation, they rose by one-third.

Under Reagan, marginal tax rates were cut from a top of 70% to 28%. Revenues (from all taxes) to the U.S. Treasury nearly doubled. According to the Budget of the U.S. Government, FY 1997, Office of Management and Budget. Revenues increased from roughly $500 billion in 1980 to $1.1 trillion in 1990.

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