Help! How do I identify my displacement to get a new oil pan?

[DMZ73]

 
I went to order a replacement centersump oil pan for my 360 engine through Mancini racing today, and ran into a roadblock.
The guy asked me what the displacement of my engine was. I told him I did not know, as any discernable numbers that are on my block are casting numbers. There are a few numbers stamped right below the head on the front of the block, but I am not sure if he means those.
I am unsure of the exact location of the numbers he is referring to. Can anyone help me out with a diagram, or a sample number?

I really want to order the pan sump and gasket kit. This freezes my progress for a little while until I figure it out, or until one of you bless me with your infinite wisdom.
Thanks!
Dan

[hemiken]

Did you ask for a 360 oil pan or smallblock oil pan ?

Because 360 are different to both the 318 and 340 oil pan.  He may of just meant that is all.  Nothing else should matter than just that it is a oil pan for 360.

[DMZ73]

No, he was adimant about the particular about the displacement. I asked him about the year and date of the motor, to which he replied "I can't help you out without the displacement."
Obviously, I've never heard that one before.
I even told him that I have the oil pan with the 4 pc seal.
I will most likely pull the rearsump pan off the motor and take it to them.
They are not too far away-20 minutes or so.

Any advice?
Dan

[Chryco Psycho]

well there are 2 different 360 pans , the LA 360 & the Magnum , , the oil pan fit & gasket are entirely different
 I assume he needs the date code from the side of the block as you know it is a 360 block

[DMZ73]

Hmmm.... I did tell the guy this was an LA 360 block dated the 1972 (June 28th).


I think he was just being difficult to be difficult. No harm in going there with the pan and the numbers.
Thanks Chryco!
Dan

[Chryco Psycho]

 

[UKcuda]

well there are 2 different 360 pans , the LA 360 & the Magnum

I hesitate to contradict CP but I think that's wrong actually.

The LA 360 pan comes in at least three flavours with front, rear or middle sump.  The middle one is for cars, the front for vans (I think) and the rear for trucks (I think). 

They will all bolt up to any LA 360 block or to a magnum block but you need the correct oil pick-up for the pan.  The 318 pans are different around the bearing caps and won't fit.

On the magnum 360s there are at least two pans, again with the sumps differently placed.  The sumps appear to be smaller capacity than the LA ones and also differ in that they have a guide inside for the dip stick to run into.  However they will bolt up to an LA 360.

I believe the 318 Magnum pans are the same as the Magnum 360s and won't fit LA 318s.

[71chally416]

Hmmm.... I did tell the guy this was an LA 360 block dated the 1972 (June 28th).

The displacement is 360 cubic inches  That should have been enough info.

[shadango]

The displacement is 360 cubic inches  That should have been enough info.

Yeah, thats what I was just thinking.....are we missing something?   

Almosty sounds like one of those parts counter guys who work there part time and have no idea about the difference between a tailpipe and a carb.  LOL

....or he was just being a richard.

[Chryco Psycho]

I agree with UK
 there are front & rear sups as well as the std mid sump pans as well as the difference between the 273/318/340 Vs the 360so there are a lot of different small block pans
 I was just mentioning the differences at the pan rail with the 2 styles of 360  having told them that it was a 360 engine in a car application it had to be a center sump but there is still the 2 types of 360 pan rail

[UKcuda]

I was just showing off my knowledge of LA/Magnum interchangeability - LOL - it's my specialist subject

The theory about the parts guy is probably right then.  All you need to specify is a 360 center sump pan.

It's even worse over here - if I go into any high street parts place to buy anything; even oil - they say "what car is it for ?"  Then the fun starts.