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SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« on: June 17, 2009 - 11:55:14 PM »
Ok, this weekend I will be putting on my 4 barrel intake manifold on my 318.  So tell your trade secrets, for preventing leaks, and such?

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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2009 - 12:02:03 AM »
Permatex Ultra copper.   :2thumbs:
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009 - 01:18:59 AM »
clean surfaces , silicone around the water port front & rear , I replace the cork end seals with a bead of silicone as well . Use a high quality high oil resistance silicone , any of the Ultra series is high oil resistance wether you use Black, Grey, Blue or Copper

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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009 - 09:35:44 PM »
Ultra works the best..
I use the high temp Orange....... :thumbsup:

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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009 - 11:08:40 PM »
I always turn the crank to #1 cylinder TDC, and mark the rotor direction on the distributor housing, and mark the vacuum advance hose nipple direction on the intake manifold.  YES, I know the gear is slotted, but if Murphy jumps in and anything goes too wrong I have a good starting point for quick reassembly.
 
I also disconnect the negative battery cable to kill the entire electrical system.  Don't disconnect the positive one first, or put it on last as sparks can arc.  I have seen this positive cable thing cause the very slightest spark, which ignited the acid vapors in and around the battery, ALL the caps flew off and acid went everywhere, like in your face.  And NO, the battery was not being charged, was just a hot day.  This is the crap that can happen when your a dealership mechanic working commission-only pay.

Good thing your not doing a Ford FE intake, they weigh 80 pounds, and using silicone end seals will eventually seep oil.  Then the customer comes back all pissed off.  I have gone back to cork on the FE's, and have no problems.  The oil drain backs for the heads are at each end, right where the silicone beads end.  The cork seal ends interlock with the intake gaskets, so the oil is forced to flow around the interlock.
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2009 - 11:11:46 PM »
We call those Ford FE engines "Farm Engines" around here  :lol:
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets (updated 6-18-09)
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2009 - 11:35:07 PM »
I have pulled off the old intake and cleaned ever thing real well.  I noticed that the block has two dowel pins (locating pins) and the old manifold has holes for them, however the new one does not.  Should I drill some or just remove the pins?

I also disconnect the negative battery cable to kill the entire electrical system.  Don't disconnect the positive one first, or put it on last as sparks can arc.

I agree, that was the first thing I did.  But thinks for the reminder.



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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2009 - 11:45:44 PM »
I would pull them out of the block. Align the bolt holes.  :2thumbs:
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2009 - 11:55:50 PM »
  :dunno:  >>Guys this is what not to do.<<.I was 18 put my first 4 barrel intake on a 400 SBC ...I did not disconnect anything..I had the timing out 180 degrees..can anyone tell me what happened  :clueless:?when I told my brother to bump the ignition while I try to get the distributor to drop in place..Then right there was an explosion that blew the valve covers almost off..a flame came out of the pcv that was like a blow torch that burned a hole in my left arm...scarred me so bad that I jumped up and hit my head on the hood..people that were watching me..including my friends drunk father(as we did it in his driveway) said that smoke was coming out of my ears.(they say it looked like a staged movie).I do not know I was pretty dizzy..Any way by the end of the day we got it running but it always burned oil after that ..think I blew the valve seals right through it..  AH!!  Those were the days ....Young and Stupid!... :bananasmi.. :roflsmiley:....Matt
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2009 - 12:11:20 AM »
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2009 - 12:29:01 AM »
Matt, thanks for the laugh.....I think most of us can relate to doing something similar.

I would pull them out of the block. Align the bolt holes.  :2thumbs:

I was thinking the same thing.  Not to sure I want to drill holes in my new intake.



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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2009 - 12:43:41 AM »
If a Ford 460 is an FE engine then I agree that the intake is insanely heavy. Love those ports though.
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2009 - 07:22:48 PM »
FE's got a big heavy intake, but the heads are lighter than a 340 mopar...
When I raced my buddie's 428 Corbra Jet Stocker I got a back ach with that manifold.. :smilielol:

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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2009 - 08:17:43 PM »
If a Ford 460 is an FE engine then I agree that the intake is insanely heavy. Love those ports though.


The 370/429/460 engines were in the "385" engine family that replaced the FE. It was more like a BB Chevy than the FE engine it replaced that had weird narrow heads with the Intake being part of the valve cover rail  :2thumbs:
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Re: SB Intake Manifold Secrets (updated 6-18-09)
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2009 - 09:24:12 PM »
I have pulled off the old intake and cleaned ever thing real well.  I noticed that the block has two dowel pins (locating pins) and the old manifold has holes for them, however the new one does not.  Should I drill some or just remove the pins?


I'd drill new holes, but then I'm a machinist, so...........  :dunno:
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