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    Offline bb71challenger

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    Carbon tax dangerously close
    « on: June 26, 2009 - 09:37:38 PM »
    Looks like I better get my car done so I can enjoy it a little bit before it is no longer legal to drive it with a combustion engine in it.  :faint:   Like taxing the piss out of the utility industry is going to bring the economy around  ::)
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    Offline cwestra

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #1 on: June 26, 2009 - 09:58:38 PM »
    It shouldn't get past the Senate.
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    Offline Katfish

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #2 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:11:12 PM »
    Quote from: bb71challenger on June 26, 2009 - 09:37:38 PM
    Looks like I better get my car done so I can enjoy it a little bit before it is no longer legal to drive it with a combustion engine in it.  :faint:   Like taxing the piss out of the utility industry is going to bring the economy around  ::)

    Utilities won't be affected, they just pass the increase on to us.  FPL is in the process of asking and getting approved for a 30% increase for electric here in FL.  They claim the money will be used to fund "green" energy.  Only green is the money that's going to be flying out of our wallets!
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    Offline Hopalong

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #3 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:11:59 PM »
    Shouldn't, but probably will.  They don't have to even vote on it right now.  It can sit and wait until there is an "emergency" and pass it in the middle of the night.  Ah I love the way gov'ment works.
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    Offline bb71challenger

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #4 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:16:44 PM »
    Thats what I was getting at. To make up for the extra fees paid for the excessive carbon credits used, we will get to make up the slack with increased energy costs.
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    Offline leithal

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #5 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:25:02 PM »
    Elections have consequences and we are getting what we voted for.  I hate to say it but maybe we should make people take some sort of test before they vote.  Things are getting really ridiculous with this administration and this congress.  I some times hope this is a bad dream and that I will wake up and everything is alright.  Turn on the TV and all I can see a camera angle taking me right up Obama's nostrils and am reminded we still have 3 1/2 years of this...at minimum.
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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:25:21 PM »
    Quote from: bb71challenger on June 26, 2009 - 10:16:44 PM
    Thats what I was getting at. To make up for the extra fees paid for the excessive carbon credits used, we will get to make up the slack with increased energy costs.

    Agreed!  Isn't that the way a socialist country is supposed to work?
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    Offline Katfish

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    « Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:30:14 PM »
    Quote from: leithal on June 26, 2009 - 10:25:02 PM
    Elections have consequences and we are getting what we voted for.  I hate to say it but maybe we should make people take some sort of test before they vote.  Things are getting really ridiculous with this administration and this congress.  I some times hope this is a bad dream and that I will wake up and everything is alright.  Turn on the TV and all I can see a camera angle taking me right up Obama's nostrils and am reminded we still have 3 1/2 years of this...at minimum.


    Watch the first 10min of this movie and you'll see EXACTLY what is happening.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiocracy
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    Offline Katfish

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #8 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:32:19 PM »
    A narrator (Earl Mann) explains that in modern society, natural selection has become indifferent toward intelligence, so that in a society in which intelligence is systematically debased, stupid people easily out-breed the intelligent, creating, over the course of five centuries, an irredeemably dysfunctional society. Demographic superiority favors those least likely to advance society.

    Consequently, the children of the educated élites are drowned in a sea of sexually promiscuous, illiterate, alcoholic, degenerate peers.

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    Offline go-fish

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #9 on: June 26, 2009 - 10:37:54 PM »
    Anyone read Animal Farm.
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    Offline Pistol Gripper

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #10 on: June 27, 2009 - 06:57:08 AM »
    Yet another Huge tax on the middle class.  Ain't socialism grand ?

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    Offline leithal

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #11 on: June 27, 2009 - 08:54:03 AM »
    I love it... 95% of Americans will get a tax cut...then 100% will get a tax increase.  Everyone needs to be contacting their Senator to stop this ridiculous thing.
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    Offline JH27N0B

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #12 on: June 27, 2009 - 11:44:33 AM »
    Thanks for the "change" voters, because of the "new messiah" the news media brainwashed all you mindless sheep into worshipping, I think a small amount of "change" in my pocket is all the money I will have left soon. :dunno:
    There is a good (but depressing) op ed piece in the latest Playboy called "The End of the Affair" that everyone should read that spells out how the U.S. is fading away to a second rate country status.  Pretty sad.......
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    Offline burnt orange

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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2009 - 01:08:35 PM »
    Quote from: JH27N0B on June 27, 2009 - 11:44:33 AM
    There is a good (but depressing) op ed piece in the latest Playboy called "The End of the Affair" that everyone should read that spells out how the U.S. is fading away to a second rate country status.  Pretty sad.......

    That is what happens to all empires though, sooner or later. 
    They become top heavy with the few rule-makers (politicians, lawyers, special-interest groups) deciding how things should be done for the good of the empire (those same people)!   The empire then becomes unsustainable and collapses, and those few run away with what is left.  The country falls into almost third-world status.  The history books are full of examples of a strong country knowing what is best for the rest of the world and then imposing those views on others, and rightly so, very often.  The end result is the same, right or wrong!

    We are witnessing history being made.
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    Re: Carbon tax dangerously close
    « Reply #14 on: June 27, 2009 - 08:36:47 PM »
    *****, whine, and complain.

    One can't go on polluting for ever while we pass on the damage to future generations.

    Why have we become so self-centered?

    We're 4% of the population yet we spew up 25% of the carbon.  99% of the population do not drive musclecars to/from work.  They commute in regular cars.  So if those regular cars need to get 50-80mpg, what's wrong w/that?

    And coal plants are lethal.  Nothing like mercury and arsenic in our lungs.

    Time to start thinking the big picture instead of just polluting and spending and borrowing like we have been doing for the past 8 years w/nothing to show for it.
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