EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming

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Offline lemming303

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EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« on: June 29, 2009 - 10:57:01 PM »
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009 - 11:17:03 PM »
What a suprise...BHO trying to deceive the masses  :swear:
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2009 - 11:29:38 PM »
All this go green crap is all about money in thier pockets  :swear:
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2009 - 11:57:54 PM »
Anybody notice they have dropped the "Global warming" mantra?? Now it's "Climate change" because the Earth is cooling and has been for years. The environmental Wackcos will point to anything to prove their unprovable point, like a Hurricane of drought or a flood. As if anything we will ever do will influence Weather patterns or mother nature. :screwy: I think you have to be incredibly arrogant to believe we have that power, but I guess it makes some people feel good about themselves. They are going to save the Planet.

 
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009 - 12:36:33 AM »
Great link i just eamiled it out!

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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2009 - 09:08:33 AM »
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Anybody notice they have dropped the "Global warming" mantra?? Now it's "Climate change"
Yep, that's the latest smoke cloud in their plan.  It's like I've said before...once you make climate a political issue you can use it for any reason to scare the public and force your agenda...warming, cooling, rain, floods, drought, hurricanes, tornados, etc That was the concept behind the global warming fear mongering and when the data started to dispute "global warming" they changed the name to "Climate Change".  Bastards!  :swear:
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2009 - 09:35:17 AM »
If all of the climate change talk would stop we would have a huge reduction in CO2.

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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2009 - 12:09:52 PM »
Well at least they are seeing that it was not Global warming and like I said it was just a climate change like it has always been with the earth tilt being different every year a  little. 
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2009 - 02:30:37 PM »
You notice none of those "greenies" are offering to off themselves to help reduce the strain on the planet. I say they should put their money where their mouth is and demonstrate their commitment to reducing the human impact on the planet.

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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2009 - 08:46:07 PM »
"EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming"

Not sure about you guys, but when I read that I would think that there was a scientific study with actual data that challenged global warming. The "study" in question is actually a "report" (yes there's a difference) by a guy (Alan Carlin) that the EPA said this about....

“The individual in question is not a scientist and was not part of the working group dealing with this issue. Nevertheless the document he submitted was reviewed by his peers and agency scientists, and information from that report was submitted by his manager to those responsible for developing the proposed endangerment finding. In fact, some ideas from that document are included and addressed in the endangerment finding.”

That's some smoking gun you've got there. One guy at the EPA, who isn't an actual scientist, who isn't actually involved in research on global warming. Or "climate change" or whatever.

But I digress. Apparently I have to go "off myself" for thinking that looking for alternative, clean energy sources to wean us off the teat of terrorist oil is a good idea. But I guess if you guys want to keep sending all your money to the Middle East you go right ahead, I'm sure OPEC won't keep raising the price on oil.

With the way the price of energy is rising right now I wouldn't be surprised if we all aren't paying an extra $175 dollars per household a year by 2020 anyway.

And I thought this wasn't a political forum?  :drama:

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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2009 - 09:14:23 PM »
You brought up a great point;

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looking for alternative, clean energy sources to wean us off the teat of terrorist oil is a good idea. But I guess if you guys want to keep sending all your money to the Middle East you go right ahead, I'm sure OPEC won't keep raising the price on oil.

There is enough oil in the US to supply the whole country for decades. The environmetal lobby is so strong, that they block drilling in ANWAR & they keep the pressure on the EPA so that new refineries can not be built.

We do not need outside oil, we need common sense to go after the oil we have here. Oil is plentiful,  common sense on the other hand is apparently a rare thing.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2009 - 09:55:48 PM »
We get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. What we get from Saudi Arabia could easily be replaced with domestic drilling, but then if that happened the people that are against internal combustion engines wouldn't have that the talking point that we support terrorists by buying oil from the middle east, even though it's a relatively small amount of the total.  :grinyes:
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2009 - 09:04:32 AM »
I'm all for looking at alternatives and figuring out ways to make things run cleaner. I'd prefer to run my cars on ethanol or methanol if we could figure out cheaper ways to produce and distribute it. However, I think blaming my cars for pollution and pushing legislation to alter what I can and can't do to my cars while certain industries and countries continue to spew tons and tons of contaminants on to the planet is akin to throwing pebbels into a creek trying to dam it up.

Really, give a gross polluting company the ability to buy a polutuion credit for taking my car off the road does nothing to address the fact that the factory still produces tons of waste while my car produces pounds of waste. Similarly, isn't classist to say that everyone has to have a new, low emissions vehicle knowing that there are families out there who are no where close to affording a newer $20,000 vehicle.

Or how about reducing demand for oil by reducing the plastic, throw away mentality we have today. How much oil consumption would be reduced if we quit consuming plastic like a crack adict smokes rock.

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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2009 - 02:27:50 PM »
Some of yall are missing the point. Global Warming and Climate Change are a damn joke. And someone tried to make an official document challenging it. Someone made sure it was hidden, although it still was found.

The reason I posted this wasn't about oil. It's because the government has deceived so many people into thinking that if we don't "go green" the world is gonna end. People need to wake up, but it's not gonna happen. The only thing that will make people realize what's going on is for time to pass. Then 100 years from now in the textbooks it will talk about "The Great Global Warming Scam".
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Re: EPA study was hidden that challenged Global Warming
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2009 - 03:52:49 PM »
I've been on board that it's a scam ever since I found out 2 things:

1.  The temperature has been cooling.

2.  Man produces 3/10 of one percent of the greenhouse gasses that supposedly are causing the "global warming"

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