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Offline battrm

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Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« on: July 06, 2009 - 10:02:09 PM »
I want to buy a 70-71 cuda or challenger.  I had plans to buy one to restore but
now I am wondering if it would better less expensivie in the long run to buy one
restored.  I know prices are down from where they were a couple of years ago.  I
was hoping to get some advice from you guys.  I have about 30k to spend.   Any
input would be appreciated.




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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009 - 10:19:59 PM »
You will spend more than 30K to "restore" just about any car.. Not too many completely & correctly "restored" e-body's for sale at that price but some VERY nice drivers..  Really all depends on your definition of restored.
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009 - 10:23:57 PM »
If you are patient and look around I am willing to bet you can get a lot of car for 30k.
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009 - 10:29:44 PM »
have you checked the for sale section here. might find something there. would definately look for a driver in that price range

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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009 - 10:36:57 PM »
If you are patient and look around I am willing to bet you can get a lot of car for 30k.
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Unfortunately, 30k doesn't go as far as you would think when restoring one of these things.  Right now 30 will get you the pick of some really nice cars if you are patient.  If you are flexible as far as color and options, there are some serious bargains out there.
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2009 - 02:40:32 AM »
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2009 - 04:18:19 PM »
When I use the word restore I really mean a car that is all there, runs and drives that
is for the most part rust free.  I am thinking it would be best to buy one that the
vin # start with  bs or js  incase I need to resale someday.  I have no interest in
buying and selling to make money.  I just like these cars.  I was wanting to see if
you guys thought it would be cheaper to buy a desent car at a desent price or
buy a basket case cheap.  I figured that there is people that have done it both
ways.

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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009 - 04:35:42 PM »
I have noticed most people on here will tell you that you cannot build a car for less than you can buy one. I for one have prove over and over this is not true, as long as you are patient looking for deals on parts and do the work yourself. My 72 Challenger that I have had for almost 12 years now I have less than 13k invested in, my 71 cuda clone I restored (curious yellow, 440 6 pack, auto, leather interior, power window, power disk brakes, power steering, billboards, gull wing spoiler, buldge hood) for a total of 23k including buying the car for 5k, my 70 cuda clone (440 6 pack, 4 speed, shaker hood, sublime green, hockey stripe, rallye gauge) I restored for a total of about 30k including paying 9k for the car because it had minimal rust and body damage. My current project is a 70 A66 Challenger 340, 4 speed, plum crazy purple, white interior car that needs a full restoration, requires replacement of both front frame rails, and I will be replacing the floor because it is easier than patching the floor, cost me $2500 to buy it, its missing a ton of parts and I plan on completing it for less than 25k total.

So as long as you have the motivation, experience and equipment you can build a car for a lot less than buying one, and then you know everything about the car and have a sense of accomplishment because you built it. I'm 25 years old and fresh out of school. I built the 2 cudas while in school to help generate some extra cash and pay bills, which I did successfully.
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2009 - 03:17:24 AM »
there were some reasonable deals at carlisle for sure & as has been mentioned if you do most of the work yourself you can build one on a budget but generally you will save $$ buying a solid car to start with over repairing one in most cases , sometimes you can do well with a 1/2 finished / abandoned project to & finish it the way you want it

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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2009 - 05:39:10 AM »
Better to buy a decent car at a decent price. In today's market $30k will buy a lot of car if you know what to look for. This is coming from a guy that has never bought a "finished" classic car. Yes, if you do all your own work you can break even or maybe even come out ahead. But its not easy, and it will require a ton of time and a well outfitted garage. If you don't have the tools already, you'll spend thousands just in tools to get your basket case running. What do you want out of the car? If you want to drive it and have fun, spend most of your budget on the car. If you want to restore something, buy a solid project and go from there.

I bought my Challenger for 11k. Trust me when I say it looks much better in the picture than it actually is. So far, I've replaced and upgraded ALL the suspension, welded a patch into and reinforced the rusty front framerail, changed the carb and intake, and purchased enough parts to do most of a 4 speed conversion. I've rebuilt a 340 for it, and made a few cosmetic upgrades. I still need to replace the driver's floor, part of the rear frame rail, and about half the interior. With the engine and suspension work alone I have another $10k in the car in the last year, and the engine isn't even in the car. And that still doesn't address the bondo thats rusting out my quarter/roof seam  (among other places) that's going to require an entire body/paint job in the very near future. When I finish it will be what I want, and I'll probably have close to $20k in the car. It will likely only be worth around $30k if I'm lucky, but I didn't set out to make a profit. At this point, I wish I had spent more money on a rust free car that I wouldn't have to redo all the bodywork on. A basket case car is a HUGE undertaking, even for skilled mechanics. My Challenger has been my daily driver for the last year, but I suspect its been more work to keep it on the road than most folks could handle on their own in their garage. I grew up restoring cars, and still have access to a full shop in addition to a garage that's getting pretty respectable (MIG welder, high capacity air compressor, engine hoist, stand, several large benches, drill press, 12 ton press, etc...). Half of which I had to get to do something specific on the car. Don't get me wrong, I had a pretty good idea what I was getting into when I bought it, and although it may not always sound like it I love to work on my cars. Which is why I bought something that I knew I would eventually spend $20k fixing.

My advice? If you've got $30k to spend, look for a $25k car. Unless you find your "dream car" ie, a car set up exactly as you want it, you can use the other $5k to get started on making it "your" car. You should be able to get a pretty nice, solid car and still have some money to put some goodies on it to get it the way you want it. That way you enjoy your car right away, not worry about learning how to restore old mopars from day 1, and take on the projects and modifications as they come.
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2009 - 05:19:37 PM »
it all depends on your skills and time to shop for parts,,you can build one for 30k that would be what you want,,but you will have to find something for around 10k and sink in another 20k for your dream car,,but you have to do all the work,,if you dont have the skills then buy one completed for 30k and do small things to change it to your dream car as you drive it,,if your not worried about numbers matching it can be done,,really all depends on what you want when done
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2009 - 05:28:33 PM »
oh yea i have between 17k to 20k in mine but i bought mine for $300 yrs ago
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2009 - 11:03:33 PM »
better to pay for a good base then getting into body work. a solid body will go miles n miles!
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Re: Rookie that wants an E-body needs help
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2009 - 09:42:08 AM »
  :iagree:  I bought a driver, cheaper in the long run, $30k will definetly get you something good that you can work with and enjoy at the same time,  WELCOME   :cheers:
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