Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440

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Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« on: July 30, 2009 - 04:09:13 AM »
I have a friend looking for  a 130 tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440 most all the ones on the market seem to be for internal balanced anyone know of a good source.

What about used did Chrysler make them back in the day?

Also does anyone know if the cast cranks are drilled for a 4 speed?

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2009 - 11:13:38 AM »
the old Engine manuals & I would assume the new ones to have a template ofr drilling holes in a neutral balance flywheel for a cast crank
 most cast cranks are not drilled for 4 spd use so you woul dhave to drill the hole to clear the input shaft & use the Dakota roller brg for the pilot

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2009 - 06:49:14 AM »
Thanks CP what are the hazards for cutting the shaft nub(input shaft) off the transmission inorder for it to fit?
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009 - 07:34:08 PM »
Brewer's will make them

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2009 - 01:43:37 PM »
personallt I would rather bore the hole than trim the front 3/8" off the tranny , if you do you will need to taper the front of the shaft again , I am not sure how well it would work in any other car after that either
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2009 - 11:50:27 PM »
I have a friend looking for  a 130 tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440  source.

What about used did Chrysler make them back in the day?


Did you ever get the template to drill the holes? I have it because I was given a free 440 -cast motor and All I run are 4 speeds.  Another way a speed shop told me that they could make one was: Order an off balance B&M flex plate from Summit for a cast 440 . He can put it on his balancer and record the off-balance, then make my flywheel match off balance. Return the Flexplate to Summit for a refund.

It would be easier to drill the 3 holes following the template. You can do it yourself with a drill press.
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2009 - 07:44:18 AM »
he is still looking so I bet if we could Barrow or copy your template that would be great.

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2009 - 09:49:50 AM »
I posted the pics here a while back. I'll look for them. They are in every Mopar Engine manual that I have. If I can rescan them if they are gone or you don't have the engine manual.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=20334.0

Pics are gone.   I'll rescan them unless someone beats me to it.
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2009 - 07:44:59 PM »
Sorry no manual please scan Photo bucket would be great  :bigsmile:
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2009 - 01:03:35 AM »
 Remember, if you use 6pack rods and you don't have the special 6-pack balancer or flywheel, you'll have to have it internally balanced like I did. Mine vibrated so badly when I jumped on it that it cracked my 727 tailshaft  in half. A Cast crank 440 also uses a special balancer and flywheel

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2009 - 04:33:52 AM »
thanks that should help a ton  :woo:
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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2009 - 11:16:44 PM »
not sure if it matters or not, but the flywheel that i got from 440 source had a weight on it that they said was for another motor. not sure what one it was but i still have the weight and bolts for it...

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Re: Help finding a 130-tooth flywheel for a cast crank 440
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2009 - 11:38:45 PM »
That is a McCleod Flywheel that has the bolt on weights for the different engines. those weights can only be used on their Flywheel that has the A-B and C weight positions.

If you friend wants to buy one and not modify a stock one by drilling holes, here is the link to McCleod. I always find swap meet flywheels or get them from friends. A friend just bought a brand new 130 tooth flywheel from Caterpiller. He said it was less that 1/2 the price of one from Summit. You might try them too.

 http://www.mcleodind.com/application_guide_pgs/flywheel_weights.html
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