It was at one of the Good-Guys car shows in Pleasanton California, they are at all of the shows both as a vendor in the show and in the swap meet selling. I don't know if they do it anymore, but they always use to sell the wheels at a great discount at the Good-Guys shows. I don't know if they are going to the nationals or not, they are based out of Fresno California, so Pleasanton is an easy one for them to make.