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Offline shadango

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2009 - 07:56:59 AM »
Ok....I am pulling together the shopping cart at Rock Auto as a starting point...here is what I have....I used a 1980 New Yorker as my vehicle.......can you guys review it and see if it looks correct?   There is $60 in core charges....I get cheap UPS rates at work so I figure probably $10-15 to return them.....so I will get $45 back....

Think I have everything coverd....one hose each side, two hose washers each side, one loaded caliper each side, one inner and one outer bearing set each side, one rotor each side. 

I am putting together the same list using the same car on Autozone.com......The prices seem about the same...they dont carry Raybestos....they carry Fenco rebuilds and Duralast pads/rotors......But they offer a lifetime warranty on them and no shipping charges for warranty returns and cores...so may be the better long-term deal.....

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2009 - 09:47:38 AM »

Where the heck is there still a junkyard with $40 spindles???

The self serve yards around here have them for that. I've had a set listed on here for that. I have a set sitting in the garage I'll cut loose for that. When I sell Wilwood or Viper kits, I give away the spindles because of the cost of the rest of the parts. Yes, they are still out there.

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2009 - 11:15:42 AM »
Thanks for the slider info.....In the Mopar Action article they show two types of slider brackets (which I assume means two different slider calipers)...standard and HD....so now its really confusing...LOL


What type do the 78.5-81 B and R bodies have?

All the slider calipers interchange, regardless of big or small rotor.  Same is sorta true for the pin type calipers (different ways for the flex hose to mount).  You can put any slider caliper on any slider caliper adapter.  You can put any 70-78 pin type caliper on any pin type caliper adapter.
78.5-81 B and R bodies came with slider calipers.  The same as a 73 Dart or 89 Diplomat.
76-78.5 B bodies used pin calipers.  Some people use these on 70-72 B and E-bodies so they can retain their calipers.
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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2009 - 11:40:41 AM »
All the slider calipers interchange, regardless of big or small rotor.  Same is sorta true for the pin type calipers (different ways for the flex hose to mount).  You can put any slider caliper on any slider caliper adapter.  You can put any 70-78 pin type caliper on any pin type caliper adapter.
78.5-81 B and R bodies came with slider calipers.  The same as a 73 Dart or 89 Diplomat.
76-78.5 B bodies used pin calipers.  Some people use these on 70-72 B and E-bodies so they can retain their calipers.


Thanks ...Its just that teh picture on Moparaction that shows the two slider calipers....standard and HD....make them look like the HD is much bigger....????



For this picture below, they say that the measuremnet is 3 5/8" for the big one and 3 1/4" for the smaller one...



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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2009 - 11:42:24 AM »
Thanks ...Its just that teh picture on Moparaction that shows the two slider calipers....standard and HD....make them look like the HD is much bigger....????




those are two different slider caliper adapters.  Big one is for 11.75 rotors, li'l one is for 10.87
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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2009 - 11:44:21 AM »
DUH!!!!! :eek4:

Ok, I forgot about the smaller ROTOR.

Sheesh.

Yeah I am thick sometimes....LOL

Thanks for setting me straight (again!)....

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2009 - 04:33:55 PM »

 if you order semi loaded calipers you will get the new pins with them

Good to know....thanks, CP!
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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #52 on: September 03, 2009 - 11:26:25 PM »
 :2thumbs:

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2009 - 07:48:20 AM »
So, does it look like I am going down the right path my the 1980 Chrysler New Yorker parts listed above before I start ordering?

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2009 - 08:49:44 AM »
looks good to me!
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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2009 - 09:06:21 AM »
Thanks!  I can start shopping now.  :)

I actually bought the one caliper already locally at Autozone....lifetime warranty and the price was cheaper than Rock.

I have some credit on my account at Rock so am going to order things like hoses, bearings from them...get the rotors, calipers and pads from Autozone for the warranty and convenience.

Just going to do a little at time so the budget doesnt hurt too bad.

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2009 - 12:12:15 PM »
I agree it looks good. You might want to get some semi metallic pads though. those organics will not last long and will kick up a pile of dust as you use them up.

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2009 - 01:40:34 AM »
Good point.....I havent gotten that far yet luckily.   :2thumbs:

I have the first caliper...second one is ordered.

Realized that I will be eating the core charge of $10....so glad I went this route vs Rock....their core was $30 each...autozone's is $9.

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2009 - 01:01:19 PM »
cheapest way to go, get some 73+ B/R/FJM spindles with the 10.87 slider caliper adapters.  Rotors and calipers are dirt cheap.  Run a manual disc brake MC (larger reservoir is in the rear, btw) and you should be all set...

HEy cudazappa....

I am on my way to having disks....I have the new/reman calipers (sliders), new hoses, banjo washers and bolts, 73 dart spindles with shields, and large rotor adaptors...one rotor is on order......all those parts I ordered for a 80 New Yorker......

Of course, I also need the MC.

I was told you should run the same MC from the car that you are using the calipers from.....The MC from a 80 New yorker wont work....my car has the 4 bolt mount and the 80 NYer has the two bolt mount.

So, what MC from what year/model should I use.....just a manual disk brake MC from a 73-74 Barracuda?

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Re: Front drum brake questions...rambling....variou thoughts.....
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2009 - 01:34:33 PM »
Shadango,
That's the manual MC that I'm using.  I'm running 11.75" rotors on the front (drilled and slotted off eBay) and the SSBC rear conversion.  I like it.  Hard braking slows extremely well but never locks up.
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