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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2009 - 12:03:06 AM »
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I swear I've read this post before, months ago...but the dates are current....
Hey, E-teck...Yes you have read this before.  I have a thread going on another site but I just signed up on here.  This is the only other Mopar site that accually has a lot of people on it.  A few other sites are lucky to get 5 posts the entire day. 

This site has a few members from the other site as well but there seems to be a lot of new people on here with a lot of good info.  I just like sharing what I know(or think I know) and learning new things along the way.  There is so much great info here...how did people get anything done without the internet.

I've been following your car too.  It turned out really nice.  I saved a lot of your pictures on my computer for reference.  Have you decided if you are going to repaint the front end of your car yet? 

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You're lucky they guy didn't slap a mechanics lein on it and have it towed back to his place!!!

I think my dad and I were quoted $2500 dolars to do the quarters and fix the other rusted areas in the back.  We payed half up front and payed the remainder when we picked the car up.  He got his money.  I suppose we could have fought the whole thing but we were tired and just wanted the car back.

"John" got what was coming to him a few months later anyway.  He was taken to court by some of the parts stores in town for not paying his bills.  Then his place was raided by the ATF and he went to jail for firearms violations.  I hear he is out now...working for someone else doing bodywork. :o




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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2009 - 02:32:45 PM »
Once the car was apart, it basically sat untouched until March of 2001 when my family moved to a different town.  The car then spent the next two years in a small storage shed until my dad could get a shop built at his new house.  Once the shop was up, the car sat again until October of 2007.

Over the years I have been collecting parts here and there.  I've  been going to the Mopar Nationals since 95 so I try and pick something up every year.  In 2006 I got real lucky and found two complete rocker panels.  That was the only area of the car that really made me nervous.  I'm glad I was able to find replacements.

In July of 07, I was really getting frustrated since the car was still just sitting there with no progress.  I called a media blastic company and was quoted $800 to completely blast the shell.  I also called a bodyshop near my house that did sand blasting.  I talked to the owner and he said that he would blast everying except the roof, doors and quarters for $200.  So in October 07, that's what I ended up doing. 

I'll post some pictures of what it looked like when I got it back in a little while.
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2009 - 03:21:17 PM »
so,  where is the project at now?   started with the bodywork yet?   
I think it`s an awesome project with a great story that will last  :bigshades:    but it won`t repair itself.... so get on it...  :working:  :bigsmile:

I guess the rust isn`t too bad... typical e-body drama. most bodyparts are available these days so basicly all you have to do is find a good guy to fix it  :eek7:  :faint:    or grab it by the horns and go for it yourself.
a gray `73 with a 318 and a great story is rarer than a 1970 bigblock without a good story, so enjoy the heck out of it  :ylsuper:
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2009 - 03:37:59 PM »
OK...I'll give you a little sneak peek since you can't wait. :bigsmile:
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2009 - 04:39:07 PM »
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2009 - 04:42:34 PM »
Here are some pictures of when the car came back from getting blasted.  There weren't really any surprises wich is good.


passengers side torsion bar x-member
 

drivers side door jam/rocker...rear


drives side door jam/rocker front


drivers side floorpan (a lot of pinholes)


pass side rear glass chanel
 

passengers side rocker


another


drivers side inner fender...(the origonal battery tray was long gone, and the battery also ate throungh the inner fender)
 

passengers side radiator support



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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2009 - 06:02:43 PM »
Here's a few more.

Passengers side inner fender
 

padd side cowl


brake booster area
 

seat belt bolt area


Dad had the car undercoated when it was new.  I think that saved the floors.


The shop that blasted the car said it would be OK to leave the body alone for up to a year without getting the bare metal sealed, as long as it wasn't touched a lot. 

Now the hunt for a resoration shop really got started.

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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2009 - 06:07:20 PM »
doesn`t look too bad  :thumbsup:     will you have it blasted again after the sheetmetal has been repaired?
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2009 - 07:38:18 PM »
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will you have it blasted again after the sheetmetal has been repaired?

The first blasting was just done to get rid of the majority of the scale and rust.  It also allowed me to really see what the car was like.  I had no idea if I would even have much of a car left once it was blasted.  That's why I decided to spend $200 instead of $800.

All the metal work was done and then the underside was blasted again before seam sealer and primer. 

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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2009 - 12:57:46 AM »
Wow that doesn't look bad at all! I have seen much worse on mine

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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2009 - 08:46:51 PM »
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Wow that doesn't look bad at all! I have seen much worse on mine

I think it accually looked a little beter with the new quarters on there.  The old ones were really bad.  The rear frame rails in the back literally looked like swiss chease.  There was nothing holding it together.  With the car up on a lift...the doors wouldn't open.  I know that happens to convertables but it's not supposed to happen to a hardtop.   There were also holes in the wheelwells that were open into the rockers.

So I'm to the point where I really started looking hard for a restoration shop.  Do you want to hear the short version or the complete long one?

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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2009 - 08:50:37 PM »
IF you've got the time to type, I've got the time to read..  :popcorn:
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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2009 - 11:59:20 PM »
Oh yeah, we love details around here, and pics. :2thumbs:

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Re: Restoration of an origonal owner 73 Challenger Rallye
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2009 - 01:42:46 PM »
OK, I give you the long version.

It was late 07 and the car had just come back from being sand blasted.  By that time I had gathered all of the big parts that I knew I was going to need to get the body done.  I had found new...front valence, replacement front fenders, inner fenders, both complete rocker panels,rear frame sections and a rear filler panel.

Over the years I had gotten a few estimates but wasn't able to come up with the money it was going to take.  I also hadn't found someone that I was 100% satisfied with.  The estimates I had gotten were right around the same price.  It would take roughly $25,000 to get the bodywork and paint done on the car.  That was only time and materials...All the parts that would still be needed would be extra.

I went online and asked if anyone knew of a good bodyshop in or near Iowa.  Afterall, part of the fun is being able to see the car during the whole process.  From that post, I heard of a company called Classic Revival who was located in Dyarsville, Iowa.  The good thing was that they were only an hour away from my house.

I looked them up and gave them a call one day and talked to the owner.(Tim)  I told him that I had an origonal owner 73 Challenger that I needed to have some work done on and he seemed interested.  I asked if it was ok to come by the shop sometime and talk a little further.  We made an apt for a Saturday morning and my dad and I made the short drive to the shop.

The week before, I had taken a lot of pics of the car and all of the rusted areas so I could get the most accurate quote possible.  I put all the pics on a CD and brought it along with me to the shop.

Tim seemed very nice and was interested in what we had to say.  We walked into the shop and saw that he was in the middle of restoring a 70 Challenger R/T 440.  It was a real black car with red side stripes.  I didn't know it at the time but it turns out the cars owner was someone I knew from my hometown where I grew up.

Tim showed us the 70 and went over all the bodywork that was done to that car.  At that point, the engine comp, interior, underside and trunk had already been sprayed black.   He was in the middle of setting all of his body gaps, getting the car extra straight before the body was sprayed with color.  I mensioned that black was very hard to get looking good and straight.  Tim said that he does every car the same way.  It doesn't matter if the car is going black or white.  It gets the same attention.

I gave Tim my picture CD and he said that he would look it over and give me a call in a few weeks.  He said that he had done a number of Challengers and Cudas over the years and should be able to give me an accuarate estimate.  He also said that he has good records of what each step of the process took him as far as time and materials.  He said every Challenger/Cuda should be the same as far as bodywork and paint.   The only thing that would vary is how much metal work the body would require.