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    Author Topic: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!  (Read 18934 times)

    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #15 on: September 21, 2009 - 07:43:26 PM »
    I got another 727 built for her,it should be at Monster Mopar Weekend In St. Louis this weekend. If any one is there,keep their eye out for it!  :2thumbs:
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Offline Changin Gears

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #16 on: September 21, 2009 - 08:50:20 PM »
    That's awful looking, good reason to run a stick.
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #17 on: September 21, 2009 - 08:54:15 PM »
    That article from John Cope was really interesting. So if you stock valve body with low/reverse band apply, is it ok to start a burnout in low?
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #18 on: September 21, 2009 - 09:20:05 PM »
    Quote from: 6packCuda on September 21, 2009 - 08:54:15 PM
    So if you stock valve body with low/reverse band apply, is it ok to start a burnout in low?
    :grinyes:
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #19 on: September 22, 2009 - 07:00:24 AM »
    Chart from TCS Products:

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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Offline shadango

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #20 on: September 22, 2009 - 07:07:52 AM »
    Quote from: tactransman on September 21, 2009 - 09:20:05 PM
    :grinyes:

    So, can you refresh those of us not up on this what a low band apply setup is?

    Not that my car is even able to do a burnout right now....but......if one has a Transgo shift kit installed does that address the issue in any way?  :dunno:  I am supposed to be able to shift down int 1st at any speed with the kit I have.....assuming the shop installed it that way....
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #21 on: September 22, 2009 - 08:43:56 AM »
    Terry, thanks for the band lesson! I actually learned a bit here.  :thumbsup:
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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #22 on: September 22, 2009 - 09:05:46 AM »
    Quote from: shadango on September 22, 2009 - 07:07:52 AM
    So, can you refresh those of us not up on this what a low band apply setup is?

    Not that my car is even able to do a burnout right now....but......if one has a Transgo shift kit installed does that address the issue in any way?  :dunno:  I am supposed to be able to shift down int 1st at any speed with the kit I have.....assuming the shop installed it that way....
    You are OK with the Transgo kit. The low band/element apply applies to ALL automatic transmissions.In a Chevy 350 Turbo and a Ford C-6 ,it is a clutch pack. In a Chevy 400 Turbo,it is a band also. Every domestic automatic 3 speed is stronger (two elements applied instead of just one) in manual low than drive low.
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #23 on: September 22, 2009 - 09:06:30 AM »
    Quote from: BIGSHCLUNK on September 22, 2009 - 08:43:56 AM
    Terry, thanks for the band lesson! I actually learned a bit here.  :thumbsup:
    Great Bigs,that is what I like to accomplish!  :cheers:
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #24 on: September 22, 2009 - 11:09:36 AM »
    Is there a way to change those cheetah valve bodies to use low/reverse band apply. Or do you have to buy new VB?
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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #25 on: September 22, 2009 - 11:14:24 AM »
    The only Cheetah Manual VB that I see that has low band apply is stock shift pattern. Your's is reverse so I say no. You would have to call them to find out for sure though.
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #26 on: September 22, 2009 - 12:03:54 PM »
    Quote from: tactransman on September 22, 2009 - 09:06:30 AM
    Great Bigs,that is what I like to accomplish!  :cheers:

    Seriously Terry...you rock dude....wish you were located closer!  I would have my tranny at your shop being done right!
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #27 on: September 22, 2009 - 02:21:30 PM »
    That's exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks

    So just to be clear...if you have a stock pattern valvebody and you do a burnout.  You should have the shifter in "1" and shift through the gears instead of leaving it in "D" correct.
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    Offline tactransman

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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #28 on: September 22, 2009 - 02:23:29 PM »
    Correct. Any time you want to "peel the tires" you should have it manual low starting out.
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    Terry-tactransman 
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    Re: Another Non LBA VB kills a Torqueflite!!!
    « Reply #29 on: September 23, 2009 - 12:10:06 PM »
    Great info Terry, I don't race anymore but if I did I would rebuild with a TCS drum. How much does the steel one run? All my stuff is 4-speed now anyway.

    I'll be looking for her runs at Gateway.

    If you didn't know, Clay and Rosie are having a Moparty, on Thursday 09-24 at 16:00 to kick off Monster Mopar WE.   Hope to see you there.
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