for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440

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for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« on: October 12, 2009 - 12:41:52 AM »
 My favorite motor is the 383 for various reasons, high winding and very cheap plentiful engines to find. easy horsepower to build. You can also find the cars cheaper than a 440 car.
Here's some nice reading for the neigh sayers ,lol
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/mopp_0209_383_engine_restore/index.html
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009 - 01:15:13 AM »
very interesting. i was thinking about swapping out my non-original 440 for a 383 that the car should of came with. and this may just swing my vote. thanks for the great article
Geoff
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2009 - 08:17:32 AM »
 :2thumbs: Certainly nothing wrong with a 383, it's got the good low end torque (not as good as 440 though) and the high rev's of a small block. A very endurable engine for sure, and can you say stroker?  :cheers: 
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2009 - 09:59:21 AM »
:2thumbs:  and can you say stroker?  :cheers: 

thats what im doin  :2thumbs: GO 383!!

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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2009 - 10:27:01 AM »
If for no other reason then 7k rpm sounds better that 6k.


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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2009 - 01:37:27 PM »
The 383 is definitely a great engine, but everything that can be done to it can be done to a 440!
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2009 - 03:23:28 PM »
The 383 is definitely a great engine, but everything that can be done to it can be done to a 440!

However a bit cheaper, no reason necessarily but building a 440 is more..  $$$$ ...?
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2009 - 03:36:30 PM »
There's no replacement for displacement.....


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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2009 - 03:39:36 PM »
well I dont like installing a 440 if the car came with a 383, call me  different. I like to VIN to say whats actually under the hood
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009 - 04:57:13 PM »
Oh I can understand that logic. Mine came with a 318.....she'll be getting an upgrade to a 440. But I'm not going back to an original car either.

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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009 - 10:28:29 PM »
well I dont like installing a 440 if the car came with a 383, call me  different. I like to VIN to say whats actually under the hood

I for sure understand what your saying, I would do the same thing if wanting it to look original, but I would stroke a 400 block and it would still look like a 383.
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009 - 11:04:58 PM »
In the search for 1hp per cubic inch, no one has ever made a convincing argument why a 383 would be better than a 451 (400 stroker).  A 383 has the weight of a big block, but the power of a small block.

Sorry, I remain unconvinced.
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009 - 11:10:16 PM »
I loved my 70 GC 383. One of my fav cars  :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2009 - 11:46:47 AM »
I'm happy...... :cooldancing:
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Re: for those who think the 383 is some shadow under a 440
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2009 - 01:44:38 PM »
In the search for 1hp per cubic inch, no one has ever made a convincing argument why a 383 would be better than a 451 (400 stroker).  A 383 has the weight of a big block, but the power of a small block.

Sorry, I remain unconvinced.

to each his own,
So just for arguement, show me a stock SB that puts out 335-390 HP.
AND in 1963...
The top-of-the-line 383 was the dual four-barrel version with compression lowered to 9.60:1. Nevertheless, it produced 390 hp at 4800 rpm and 485 pounds-feet of torque at 3600 rpm.
The 383, however, continued to be a perennial favorite as a performance powerplant for the next eight years. Power output for the 383 was diminished in 1964 so as not to embarrass the horsepower ratings of the larger engines.
http://www.tommythekrycho.com/mighty2.htm

Besides, there was a comparison done between 2 equally equipped b bodies, cant remember where i found it anyway, the 383hp and 440hp only had .01 difference in the quarter mile, so your prejudice is unfounded
70 Barracuda Gran Coupe,383-4bbl,# Match
2012 Subaru Forester
70 D100 Adventurer 383 pickup
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