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Offline HP2

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Exporting a car from the US
« on: October 14, 2009 - 09:21:55 AM »
Since we have a number of international members as well as some experienced domestic members, I'm looking for some info on exporting a car.

Long story short, I think I have a scammer after one of my cars. The email exchange has gone along pretty typically of what I would think a serious buyer would ask and say, request for pictures, description of condition,parts included, etc. Then all the sudden out of the blue comes the agreement to buy and a request to pay extra for me to arrange shipping to Belgium and I can deduct my fee from that, etc, so on and so forth because the buyer is too busy to arange shipping to Seattle instead. Uhh, huh. So, on the very slim, razor thin, chance this is legit, I don't want to immediatly alienate the buyer, but I'm feeling like this is heading down the toilet.

What are some probing questions I can hit this person up with about exporting issues that may expose their intentions? I was thinking about asking if I could have a "friend" swing by their place of business to pick up the cash for the car to help expedite shipping. Also thought about a price equal to the car for agent fees and to smooth the skids for another "friend" of mine who can export out of Houston instead of Seattle. Maybe ask for bonding information and verification about their export agent. Things like that. Any suggestions on ways to either tire out the scammer or reveal the truth in the buyer? I'm thinking the more technical questions I can hit them with about the export situation will flush them out.

Thoughts?




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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2009 - 09:31:02 AM »
Been there done that, tell him you will only work through a Broker, he sends the money to the Broker, the Broker pays you he take the car and ships for the Customer. It then between the Broker and the Customer money's in your hand.


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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009 - 09:53:52 AM »
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009 - 11:32:06 AM »
Don't even bother replying at this point.  It's 100% a scam and you'll get nothing out of bantering back and forth with him.

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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009 - 12:11:13 PM »
Just ask how they will pay you-NO money grams,cashiers checks or such accepted,payment by wire transfer to your bank or cash before car is released!
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009 - 12:31:42 PM »
Just tell him you think it starts to smell fishy from here on,  and if he still wants the car he better come up with a watertight plan to get the money to you with him taking the risks. 
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2009 - 06:44:32 PM »
Don't do any more.
If he is for real tell him to pay up then when the money is in your hand you may feel happy to help him with shipping.
I think it's a scam.
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2009 - 08:51:26 PM »
broker the deal
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2009 - 09:11:05 AM »
Broker is the best way.
My last car that went out of country was paid for through paypal.
I had the money all sitting in my account before I ever moved the car from my house.
The guy really wanted that 69 428 Grand Prix.
Worked out great.  After he deposited the money into my account, the guy and his brother
flew over here from Germany and drove the car to the shipping station down in Houston.
I thought he might have been a scammer but he turned out to pay premium money for the car.
Good luck.
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Offline HP2

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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2009 - 11:15:00 AM »
So I wrote back last night asking them to call me so we can work out details. I pointed out that since this has turned out to be an overseas transaction, that we need to arrange a broker to handle everything between us. I pointed out that a broker can handle a wire transfer for funds, will arrange the delivery, crating, and insurance involved with transport to the dock as well as to the overseas destination, and will be up to speed with all the export documentation required with our post 9/11 world that will help expedite the vehicles transfer of ownership. I also suggested they be ready to provide name, address, contact information, account numbers and other sensitive information necessary to complete the sale.

In the mean time, I'll be contacting either the regional or state department of criminal investigations about the situation and get their contact info along with the protocol for dealing with the situation. If the buyer refuses the broker suggestion, back pedals for a domestic shipment only, or any other suspicious behaviour, then I'll just suggest they put the money directly in an account which is managed by the CBI, Colorado Banking Institute (which are actually the initials for the Colo Bureau of Investigation), which will just coincidently has all the exact same contact information as the criminal investigation division listed above.

Lets see what happens next.

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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2009 - 11:47:08 AM »
Scammer!!!!!  Do Not Proceed! 
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2009 - 12:56:56 PM »
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2009 - 04:09:11 PM »
Scammer,as everyone else has said,walk away NOW.If you check out other sites where the same story is told Id bet it is probably originating from some s--t hole in Nigeria.Thats where most internet scams appear to come from.

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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2009 - 04:35:59 PM »
 ???    seems like some are gong into panic mode here....   :clueless:     its possible this is a scam, but it could just as wel be it is not IMO.  remember it`s not easy to deal with this kind of stuff when you are the buying side either. 
I don`t see any problem here as long as the money is in the bank of the seller...  so why run away...? its not as if selling cars in the US is great business at the moment ,is it?   
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Re: Exporting a car from the US
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2009 - 05:57:13 PM »
The way the scam works is the send you the "funds" in the form of a bogus check.  When you give the "transporter" the extra money to be used to pay for transport, they get you car plus the cash back.  In general it takes about 2 weeks for the fraudulent check to be discovered and at that point your car is gone, the money is no longer in your account, PLUS you've given the scammer a bunch of your hard earned cash to steal your car.
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