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Offline mikerallye

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1974 cuda bs23?
« on: December 19, 2009 - 09:54:20 AM »
Just got off the phone with a guy near me. He has cuda not barracuda bs not bh? no engine, 1974 cuda front and rear swaybars, not rallye gauges, has standard cluster. It had 318 enigine. Good solid body with pin holes in trunk pan and small rust on quarters. good interior. 7500.00. Too high?




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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009 - 10:03:27 AM »
yes too much money   .4000$max  that is abasic cuda
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009 - 10:06:22 AM »
you can buy a car like that done for 20-30,000. why would you buy that car un restored for 7,500 $?
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009 - 10:10:36 AM »
well there is the additional 13-23,000 thousand dollars...       :roflsmiley:
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009 - 10:18:09 AM »
what is the vin code for a real cuda? BS or BH? thanks guys

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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009 - 10:58:23 AM »
BH - Barracuda
BS - 'cuda

Unless this car is rust-free and highly optioned, it's high at that price. Matching #'s? Got pics?
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009 - 11:06:53 AM »
 I agree with all the above posters. You really have to figure in the cost to restore it and what they are worth to buy finished?  Unless a car has sentimental value to you personally. Eg, your Dad's car or something like that. If it has rust in the trunk you can count on the dutchman panel being shot too! There is ALWAYS unexpected issues when you start taking them appart too. Just my  :2cents:
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009 - 03:02:45 PM »
Someone here just paid 18K for a basic 318 Challenger and you all thought he got a good deal.  Now you say a relativelly clean 74 cuda is not worth 7500 because the 318 motor isn't there?  I strongly urge you to look further into this.   Although I have a Challenger it is pretty obvious that any year 318 cuda is worth more than any year 318 Challenger.  Drop 10K into that Cuda and you could have a big block 4 speed car  worth 18K.  Do the same to that 18K 1970 318 Challenger and you have the same thing plus a 318 to use as a boat anchor.
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009 - 03:09:58 PM »
Relatively 'Cuda illiterate, but didn't the 72-74 'cuda's have to have 340, or 360 in it to qualify as a 'cuda? I thought the 318 and 225 equipped cars were the Barracuda's.  :dunno:
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009 - 03:18:25 PM »
in 1974  you could get a cuda with a 318    also a 74 cuda/barracuda has the lowest production numbers.   I dont think a solid  cuda body for 7500 is out of line.  Not if your going to enjoy the car. It isnt about resale to a real hobby guy.  If you walk up to the car and see it, and it grabs at your heart, then the price you pay is what you wanted it for.  I paid 12k for my 70 barracuda with a 318 4 speed.  The 318 was gone.  No rust tho and 42k milles on it.  I stuck a 446-6  and a 410 dana in it. Not even worried about value.   The better the body, the more money you save on your build.  Finding a 74 is harder than finding a 71.   

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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009 - 03:21:58 PM »
I might try to get it down to $6500 but $7500 isnt way out of line,,as long as the frame rails are good and solid and body as well as you say,  :useless: but cant say untill seen
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009 - 03:24:04 PM »
From what I've seen, 74's still don't get as much as 72's & 73's, don't know why, cuda or Challenger.

The slant-6 was dropped in 73 and cudas and Rallye Challengers could both be had with 318's, 340's (and 360's in 74).

A friend of mine recently sold (to a now EX friend), a nice 73 cuda 340. It WAS triple black, now has a crate 360 and is yellow. Probably could be local show-ready for another $2-3K. No rust, he drove it home 140 miles with no issues. Price was $11K.
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009 - 05:20:46 PM »
Someone here just paid 18K for a basic 318 Challenger and you all thought he got a good deal.  Now you say a relativelly clean 74 cuda is not worth 7500 because the 318 motor isn't there?  I strongly urge you to look further into this.   Although I have a Challenger it is pretty obvious that any year 318 cuda is worth more than any year 318 Challenger.  Drop 10K into that Cuda and you could have a big block 4 speed car  worth 18K.  Do the same to that 18K 1970 318 Challenger and you have the same thing plus a 318 to use as a boat anchor.
I think it has to do with the year of the car.
70,71's brings the most as they are the most popular.
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2009 - 08:19:03 PM »
exactly my point. the market for the cars is dead , with that said they will always be worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it.
7,500 isnt  waaay to expensive but it all depends on what you plan on doing to it and how much rust has to be repaired .
if its straight , it has to have the quarter panel rust / trumk rust ect .  i just said that because i been looking at so called finished
cars for the 20.000 - 30.000 range wich is a good deal / when people are buying rust buckets and 318 1972-74  cudas for 6,000-10,000. for a shell!!!!

   you be the judge and do the math , i personally have one of those cars that are worthless and need alot of work but i want a 1970 replica car so im building it so its mine and not someone elses idea..
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Re: 1974 cuda bs23?
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2009 - 08:44:29 AM »
70-71 cars are a band wagon.  Because they came with the big engines. As for 'cudas...  The 70 is too boring.The 71 they hung all sorts of junk on it. The round tail lights have the best looking grill period. I don't care too much about the back...I don't see it too often.  I'd much rather have a 72-74 'cuda. They are cheaper and better looking.Most have been modified anyway. The factory cars aren't for me. I could care less about originality.All those cars are gone anyway.And WAY overpriced. Then your stuck with it. My car is mine. I like the hobby not the investment. It would be pretty dumb to be in this for the money.But I do agree... A done car is a quicker way.And now is a good time. 6-10K can go a long way if you do it yourself.  :dunno:
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