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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2010 - 11:30:01 PM »
mine is not a powertrain it is prety much bumper to bumper it is called maxuem lifetime and my car is a rt,that would be dumb that you can get it on mine and not srt

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Only Chrysler lifetime warranty I have seen is on the powertrain and it is advertised as a limited lifetime plan. All SRT vehicles excluded.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2010 - 03:10:05 AM »
when we looked into it the lifetime warranty is only available in the US
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2010 - 09:27:01 AM »

Looks are subjective, but the Challenger seems to get raves from almost everyone except for, surprisingly, some Mopar guys who gripe about the "slab sides".  I sometimes wonder if their complaints are just sour grapes, they can't afford one so they comfort themselves by nitpicking about the styling?  Everyone else, including Ford and Chevy guys always complement the looks and give Chrysler credit for the best job with the styling.



Man you sure hit the nail on the head with this one!!!!!!!!! I couldnt agree more and I think it all boils down to that.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2010 - 10:41:22 AM »
i agree with that ,if you cant buy one you try to put it down to try to make yourself feel better :clapping: :woo:

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2010 - 11:13:23 AM »
I have to disagree with that one. Every time I complain about the size of the car and non mopar people respond with why i just show them a picture of the original next to a new one, they are always amazed at what a boat the new one is and then understand why i dont like the new one. As far as not being able to afford one and I am jealous is just stupid. I was ready to order a fully loaded SRT8 until I saw one in person and said, nope I'll put my money elsewhere. Took me a while to decide what I wanted instead of the new Challenger, but I decided on a Z06 Corvette instead and am glad I did every day I get in it. But that is just my opinion.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2010 - 01:34:26 PM »
I am going to have to agree with 72hemi I used to want one as well until i saw one in person when they first came out. I thought they were way to big and bulky. When you sit in one it just doesn't feel like a challenger anymore. Now thats just my opinion on them and for the people that did get one and liked them thats good.

BTW thats my grandpas plum crazy r/t and my purple 72 next to it in the last picture 72hemi posted. If I wanted a daily driven mopar I would take his SRT10 ram truck.

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2010 - 01:38:33 PM »
If you have it narrowed down to just a Challenger and a Camaro, and you are ok with the Camaro's looks (I think it is hideously ugly inside and outside, but apparently there are people who like it), you should go with the Camaro for 10K less.

Personally, depending on what you are after, I think you can do better than both (especially at the Challenger price).  If you just want to look good and go fast in a straight line then the Challenger is a great car.  I was so excited about the Challenger when it was announced, but after driving it I am sadly disappointed.  It does have a lot of power, but it is basically a cruiser.  I don't consider it a modern all-around performance car.  It isn't nearly as fun to drive as a Neon SRT-4 or a Caliber SRT-4.  For the price range you are looking at, there are many European and Japanese cars that are more fun to drive than the Challenger. 

If you watch the episode of Top Gear where the boys come to the USA to test the Challenger, Caddy-Vette, and Z06, you'll see what I mean.  When they get the cars into the twisties the Challenger isn't nearly as much fun.

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2010 - 02:41:49 PM »
I just don't get it I guess. Going by some of your thinking I supposed you think that Road Runners, Super Bees, Chargers and Coronet R/Ts are just bloated over sized taxi cabs then also. I don't think the new Challengers were to replace the old ones. I thought they were a modern car that resembles the original, not an exact copy.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2010 - 02:52:53 PM »
All Chrysler had to do was remove about 3-4 inches from below the bodyline of the new Challenger and it would have been fine, but the way it is the car is just massive and bloated. I haven't seen a side by side of the new Challenger with the old B-bodies, but I would bet money that the new Challenger looks bloated next to them as well. The proportions are just wrong. The concept car had good proportions, but it was over 3 inches wider and a half inch lower than the production model. For people who have a new Challenger and like it, that's great.

I wasn't looking for an exact copy of the original, but it would have been nice if the proportions could have been closer. The new Challenger is 4 inches taller than the original, I believe an inch longer, and a half inch narrower, so next to an original it looks out of place.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2010 - 04:09:15 PM »
that is so funnyi have owned a few old 60s and early 70s mopars and they are big boats,i have owned a 69 road runner 383,a 73 ralley charger 340,a 74 charger se 440,and a 69 charger 440.my mouther has a 44 challenger and my aunt has a 426 hemi challenger she bought new in high school and i have driven all of them,and they are all heavy slopy cars.now they look great but they handel not very well.if they went 0 to 60 in under 10 seconds that was fast back in the day.the old car is not evan cloust to beaing as good as the new one .the new one can do so much that the old one cant and better and it is alot safer to.you say you bought a zo6 vette well i should hope it is better for the 79k the coust with is allmoust dobbel what a challenger is.you could have bought the challenger and made it way faster then that vette for all that cash.and you say you dont like how big it is well it does have alot moure room then the old one allso,it sits 5 easy do that in your old one,

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2010 - 04:17:26 PM »
Well for starters I should clarify I bought a used Z06  and paid less than a new Challenger (paid under $30k for it) price for it. For the price of a new Challenger SRT8 I can build a classic challenger with XV motorsports suspension brakes, drop in a fuel injected engine, overdrive, etc, etc, and made it destroy a new challenger. but that is not the discussion.

I'm not saying the new Challenger is a bad car in the way it performs or that it is uncomfortable, I am saying that the body porportions are wrong and it looks like a bloated cow compared to the original. Also when I sit in a new challenger i get a feeling that I am in a new charger, not an old challenger. The new challenger is more like a modern sedan than a modern muscle car. The interior on the mustang and camaro are a lot better in terms of resemblance to the original than the challenger is. yes they have less interior room than the challenger, but they are muscle cars, not performance sedans. Most road tests of the 3 new cars places the challenger last, why because it is bigger, heavier, underpowered (for its size) and really other than appearance (by itself) is really a sedan and not a muscle car.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2010 - 04:46:21 PM »
I have that same black SRT QC as my DD. Great truck, but the dodge truck paints suck.

Anyways, I also find it ironic that the 1st gen challenger was a boat in its time, and now it's even worse! Heck, the 1st gen looks like an econobox compared to the new one.
That said, I do like the car, but agree it should be a few inches lower and a few hundred pounds lighter.
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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2010 - 09:08:40 PM »
Camaro is bloated compared to the original, also.  It's called highway safety regulations and new car luxuries.  All cars have gotten bigger over time.  Look at an early Honda Accord compared to the current model. 

Just to say the new Challenger is a bloated pig is stupidity, because they are all bigger.  If you don't like how it looks, just say that, or if you think it costs too much, say it.  I have not read any single review that did not like how it looks, only the comments about it being larger, which is expected.  Personally I will save my money until I can afford a new Challenger, if and when that ever happens, because I think they hit a Grand Slam with the design.

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2010 - 09:45:05 PM »
I too was really excited about the new Challenger coming out. Followed its progress all the way from concept to production. I couldn't wait to see one. When I did........very dissapponted. It is the Charger platform shortened to a coupe. The concept did such a better job of capturing the original look.
 What it did for me was rekindle the love for the original style Challenger enough to go out and buy one. As far as it being sour grapes I could have bought a new one but I made my choice.

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Re: A damn tough decision...
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2010 - 10:09:49 PM »
Sorry but the new Camaro is 4 inches lower than the new Challenger and keeps the proportions better than the Challenger. So saying taht the new Challenger is bloated is stupidity is totally wrong, because they could have made the Challenger with the proper proportions, but took the cheap and easy way out by basing the Challenger on the Charger platform instead of a new platform like the Camaro and Mustang, and you would think that basing the Challenger on an existing platform would allow Chrysler to be competitive in pricing compared to the Mustang and Camaro and yet it is way over priced compared to the other two.
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