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Offline tommyg29

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a833 rear seal question and picture
« on: February 10, 2010 - 08:26:46 PM »
I have a leaky rear tranny seal (its throwing oil all over down there, makes for a great rust preventer!) and am about to order a new "output shaft" seal from year one, but I know the one that is leaking is relatively new, plus the yolk shaft seems slightly loose/sloppy. Is there another inner seal or bearing of some kind that may need replacing also?
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010 - 08:32:29 PM »
there is an inner tail shaft bushing, and on the seal, there is a tiny hole for air vent in the cup. Did you install that up or down :bigsmile:

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2010 - 08:47:54 PM »
a bushing, thought so. It might be worn.
I see the hole in the year one picture, but will have to check on mine. I assume it should be up, and it probably is or I would have noticed it.
Thanks. Now I have to find the bushing. Is there another name for it I should search?
Think I found it. Is it the case extension mainshaft bushing?
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010 - 08:57:31 PM by tommyg29 »
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2010 - 08:59:56 PM »
pm tactransmission, he has them in stock and can give you tips on the aggrevating install

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010 - 09:06:57 PM »
I found it easy to install on the bench. In the car.... might not be so easy. :swear:
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2010 - 09:20:54 PM »
Here is a tip: I made this up and it fits the seal and work's perfect on all Mopar transmissions, just go to home depot or lowes and pick these up...

Install in or out of the car, easy as pie...
« Last Edit: February 10, 2010 - 09:25:43 PM by vinb »

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2010 - 09:35:14 PM »
thanks everyone
Ive contaced tactransman about the parts
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010 - 04:54:58 AM »
I would also check the slip yoke to see if that is also not worn.
Al if the seal has a dust shield extension I have always put the hole down and always put a smear of grease inside the lip, we had a few over here that squeaked or squealed if dry.
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010 - 09:51:18 AM »
Info is on the "Companies" thread.  :cheers:

Good tool tip by the way also vinb!  :cheers:
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010 - 11:18:12 AM »
I use a large sheet metal type socket to instal the seals

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2010 - 02:18:48 PM »
but how would you remove the old bushing? That sounds not so easy
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2010 - 11:23:53 AM »
I was going to buy the toool 2 years ago , it reaches inside the trans & grabs the bushing , you just thread the center shaft in against the tail shaft to pull the bushing out

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2010 - 10:28:56 PM »
but how would you remove the old bushing? That sounds not so easy
I had the tail shaft housing removed for other reasons, then cut thru one side of the bushing with hacksaw blade.  Bushing tapped out without much fuss.
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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010 - 06:46:58 PM »
I decided to ask a transmission guy I know (I personally collect his rent when he's late, which is often, recently) about replacing the bushing, and he swears the case needs to be dropped to remove the bushing.
But, I dont want him dropping it just so he can look for and claim it needs other repairs. You know the drill. I know the guy, but dont trust him that much. I've witnessed and heard from his neighbors about major "disagreements" with his customers, sometimes involving the police! But, he is knowledgable, or at least he should be after 25 years of running the shop.

I do probably need a new synchro for my 2nd gear, but dont want to tackle that now.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2010 - 06:54:29 PM by tommyg29 »
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71 Cuda 440-6 Tribute-Limelight-A833 Close Ratio-4 Sp-Pistol Grip-Dana 3.54 Powr Lok-Rally Dash-Shaker (Sold)
92 Dodge Stealth RT-Twin 15g Turbos-SAFC2 Tuned-Mystic Blue-5 Sp-AWD-Rear Wheel Steering-AutoX'r (Sold)
12 Dodge Charger SXT Plus Blacktop Package-3.6L-8 Sp-Leather-Nav (the wife's)

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Re: a833 rear seal question and picture
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010 - 07:03:18 PM »
I have never done it in car but the tool is available to do it so it must be possible

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