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    Offline vpittman

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    Header Advice
    « on: April 03, 2010 - 06:59:21 PM »
    Hi all,
    I'm restoring a '73 Cuda, with a '76 360... nothing perfect or anything but hope to have a really nice driver.

    The headers are a bit rusty so I pulled the off today. It seems the headers I have are Patriot H8205...

    It will cost me $225 to have these ceramic coated, it it worth it ? I could try to coat them myself or possible buy a new set...

    What do ya'll think ?

    Thanks !
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    Offline Chryco Psycho

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010 - 11:08:37 PM »
    do they fit well , do they go under the steering link ?
    are the dented ?
     Need more info , if they go under the steering I would replace them or if the fit is bad , most headers limit access to the 5&7 plugs, Dougs & TTI are better but will cost you more
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    Offline GoodysGotaCuda

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010 - 11:13:46 PM »
    I,like many have the headers that go under the steering link. I would certainly not dump a dollar into a set of headers that go around the link. I will be spending good money on headers that don't drag the ground next time.
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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010 - 11:19:34 PM »
    You can get a new set or Patriots already ceramic coated for $330...don't think I'd bother coating to old ones....how did they fit?, maybe just clean em up & paint....
    I put the cheaper Hooker Competition model on, biggest problem is they do have the pass through steering linkage which costs ground clearance, other wise no fitment issues...2-plugs are a pain as CP pointed out. 
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    Offline vpittman

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #4 on: April 04, 2010 - 12:06:25 PM »
    Yea, these are shorties so they don't go under the linkage, not dented and fit good, as far as I can tell...

    Thought about it a bit last night and I'm just gonna paint them for now and get a set of Hooker Super Comps later

    Thanks for all the help
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    Offline shadango

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #5 on: April 05, 2010 - 12:26:27 PM »
    I just have to throw a plug in for Dougs....

    LOVE mine.

    I balked at first about the extra cost....but ease (relative) of install, look, sound and clearance have me very happy....quality is awesome and I have never looked back on that purchase and second guessed it.
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    Offline moparmaniac59

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #6 on: April 05, 2010 - 12:31:26 PM »
     :iagree: I too have Doug's and couldn't be happier although I can't advise on small block fitment as I have a big block, but the fit and quality are superb. I think the only better would be TTI and they do cost more than Doug's.

                                                           Matt B.
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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #7 on: April 05, 2010 - 06:22:19 PM »
    Hooker Super Comp's #5115, best fitting header on a small block 'Cuda without doing a custom set..
    1 3/4" tube,  3" collector, 35" long..
    With or without power steering , Auto or 4spd... #5 & #7 plug wires no problem, don't need a oil filter adapter either...

    No complaint's here, both sides OVER the drag link....
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    Offline vpittman

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #8 on: April 05, 2010 - 09:26:39 PM »
    That's what I've read elsewhere here... so is it worth the extra to get the ceramic coated ?
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    Offline TROUBLE987

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010 - 09:47:30 PM »
    Quote from: moparmaniac59 on April 05, 2010 - 12:31:26 PM
    :iagree: I too have Doug's and couldn't be happier although I can't advise on small block fitment as I have a big block, but the fit and quality are superb. I think the only better would be TTI and they do cost more than Doug's.

                                                           Matt B.
    hey matt how is the coating holding up?did you have to beat on them any?
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    Offline Road_Runner

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010 - 11:59:47 PM »
    Quote from: vpittman on April 05, 2010 - 09:26:39 PM
    That's what I've read elsewhere here... so is it worth the extra to get the ceramic coated ?

    Absolutely, I wouldn't buy another set of uncoated headers for any amount of money.  I couldn't stand the way headers immediately rusted back in the 70's and how they generally rusted through in 4-5 years.  I've had a set of coated Hookers on my Roadrunner for over 10 years and although they've dulled a bit they otherwise still look like new.  No comparison.

    Later, Jim
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    Offline smallblocksrock

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #11 on: April 06, 2010 - 12:17:04 AM »
    I have Doug's headers on a 318/904 73 Barracuda and a 340/4 speed 70 Challenger.  They fit great.  I did not need to "massage" any of the tubing to make them fit.    You have to use a mini-starter, but you can install it with the headers installed. 
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    Offline shadango

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #12 on: April 06, 2010 - 08:24:08 AM »
    Quote from: smallblocksrock on April 06, 2010 - 12:17:04 AM
    I have Doug's headers on a 318/904 73 Barracuda and a 340/4 speed 70 Challenger.  They fit great.  I did not need to "massage" any of the tubing to make them fit.    You have to use a mini-starter, but you can install it with the headers installed.

    I wasnt able to install the ministarter I got with the header installed  (318/727)....have to loosen it.  :swear:
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    Offline moparmaniac59

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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010 - 12:11:39 PM »
    Quote from: TROUBLE987 on April 05, 2010 - 09:47:30 PM
    hey matt how is the coating holding up?did you have to beat on them any?
    The coating looks fine. Like it did when I installed them. No beating involved although they are very close to the power steering pump.

                                                     Matt B.
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    Re: Header Advice
    « Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010 - 03:58:29 PM »
    Quote from: moparmaniac59 on April 07, 2010 - 12:11:39 PM
    The coating looks fine. Like it did when I installed them. No beating involved although they are very close to the power steering pump.

                                                     Matt B.
    thx for the info...that will be my next set then!!!
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