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heads for my 440...
« on: April 14, 2010 - 11:06:19 PM »
lookin at buyin a set of heads for my 440, gonna have to put $ into my 906's to get them goin, been considering aluminum heads..my motor is a stock piston, engle k58 cam, rebuild..whats my best bet? dont have the money to swing indy's unless i find a decent deal on a used set.... lol gonna have to sell my 65 a100 van to buy, wanna make the right choice




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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2010 - 12:46:47 AM »
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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2010 - 12:47:57 AM »
lol yeahhhhhh

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2010 - 12:49:24 AM »
lol yeahhhhhh

just joshing with ya.  :biggrin:

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2010 - 12:51:13 AM »
hahaha  :clapping:

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2010 - 02:39:23 AM »
there are a number of variables here ...... firstly any alum heads absorbs more heat & needs 1 more point of compression to compensate .Secondly my real world experience with the Eddy RPM heads was 2 HP gained going from well ported iron heads to ported RPMs .
SO what year & approx compression is your current 440?
if you are in the 8.5 range now & lose another point to the heat loss , you will effectively have a 7.5:1 compression engine & the K58 will be helping to bleed off soem cyinder pressure too , I doubt you will be impressed
 so what do you have & what is the end result you hope for ?

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2010 - 12:30:31 PM »
there are a number of variables here ...... firstly any alum heads absorbs more heat & needs 1 more point of compression to compensate .Secondly my real world experience with the Eddy RPM heads was 2 HP gained going from well ported iron heads to ported RPMs .
SO what year & approx compression is your current 440?
if you are in the 8.5 range now & lose another point to the heat loss , you will effectively have a 7.5:1 compression engine & the K58 will be helping to bleed off soem cyinder pressure too , I doubt you will be impressed
 so what do you have & what is the end result you hope for ?
compression is about 10.2:1   .......i am lookin for a good solid bolt on head that'll get me to the lower 12's ..... at some time i am goin to build my stroker so at this point i am not worried about gettin the most out of this motor...jus a good solid pump gas runner

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2010 - 02:11:10 PM »
With a stroker a few more questions arise , assuming around 512 CI & 6000 RPM max powerband you are on the fence for Max port size heads , stock port heads would limit the upper powerband probably down to 5500 range while the max heads will trim off some low end power which can be a good thing with the massive torque the strokers make . Again I would be leaning more towards a Indy EZ head pkg over the cheaper 440 Source or Eddy offerings looking forward to a stroker build , BTW stay away from the Eddy Victor heads . I assume you will be running headers & some after market intake & carb ?
If you want to go cheap I would look at the 440 Stealth head over the Eddy , they cost less & offer similar if not better performance IMO , the Stealth will need new 10* locks & retainers installed & a check over before installing

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2010 - 06:17:57 PM »
my stroker will be a 543 with 12.5 compression.... but the motor i am lookin for heads for is jus a motor to hot rod A bit till i get enough cash to build the stroker right (indy heads like you suggest)....so you think that the stealths are my best bet? are they a true bolt on other than a good check and the 10* locks? i will be runnin headers, and 850 holley on top of a tm7 intake i bought from stroker a while back

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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2010 - 06:48:19 PM »
Are 10* retainers a must?  Why do they come with 7* retainers?  If you have low spring pressure won't the 7* be enough?  Or does it have to do with lift?
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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2010 - 09:49:53 PM »
go with 67 440hp 915 closed chamber heads
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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2010 - 10:00:46 PM »
the reason  people are switchin to the 10deg retainers :the chinese 7degree retainers are junk even on a stock type set up . the best way to correct that problem is to move up to the 10 deg lock and retainers for security + it dosnt break the bank.
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Re: heads for my 440...
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2010 - 06:17:25 PM »
If it's a place holder engine, the Stealths are a decent head for the money. No head is ready to bolt on IMO, so plan to have them gone thru by a competent shop. IMO, you could do a job on your heads now, or stick a set of Aerohead crap on them and be out less coinage and then you're closer to the stroker.  None of the cheaper heads are enough for a 543.