That's kinda the car that started the argument at the other site. Said I really wasn't fond of the car being it was an automatic and had a moonroof. Not my style. Also, it still has the 5.7 hemi, not the big 6.1 hemi. I'd prefer the 6.1 hands down. These are heavy cars and need the big engine to get them going. Sadly, i think my present ride, 2009 Cobalt SS would take that R/T out.